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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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What are you going to do?
Me? I'm not the tough guy!
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You are the one who brought up Mengele man. You realize he wasn't the only Nazi scientist who experimented on uninformed subjects, right? And I said 'those type of experiments,' which might be confusing for you, because I'm referring to a shared feature between those experiments and some later experiments. What feature am I referring to?
You brought up Nazi experiments. No where prior to that post I responded to did you state that you were just discussing the topic of "uninformed subjects". Was Mengele not a Nazi scientist? Do you equate the experiments performed in the examples you provided afterwards to those performed by the Nazis?
So you're basically defending your post I originally responded to by modifying the meaning of what you stated & then attacking my intelligence as the reason your original post wasn't interpreted the way you thought it should be.
Again I wonder if you have always been so arrogant & condescending or was it because you weren't accepted into medical school until multiple attempts and have to cover for your insecurity.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:07 pm to minister of truth
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You brought up Nazi experiments.
Read the thread again my man.
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No where prior to that post I responded to did you state that you were just discussing the topic of "uninformed subjects"
Man, do you know what the Nuremburg Code is? Dgnx6 brought it up and I pointed out that the first principle of it, but you apparently missed that reference.
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So you're basically defending your post I originally responded to by modifying the meaning of what you stated
I literally brought up the Nuremburg Code in the post you responded to. My god man.
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Again I wonder if you have always been so arrogant & condescending or was it because you weren't accepted into medical school until multiple attempts and have to cover for your insecurity.
Nah, got in the first try.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:26 pm to crazy4lsu
good for you! so you've always been arrogant and condescending. personally I developed a little more humility in medical school
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:40 pm to minister of truth
So are we admitting that you didn't read the thread, missed the Nuremburg references, and then tried to insinuate something that I not only never said, but wasn't even referring to? All because you didn't read anything I wrote closely? Because, again, as it appears, nothing you've written has undermined that you were just approaching this in bad-faith.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:54 pm to crazy4lsu
No you modified/expanded your discussion after the fact to fit your argument. But the main purpose of most of your posts is to try and appear more intelligent than everyone else. The arrogant condescending nature of your posts speaks volumes of your insecurity. I’m certain in real life you’re a little guy who says very little
Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:11 pm to minister of truth
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No you modified/expanded your discussion after the fact to fit your argument
Why did we refer to Nuremburg in those two posts man?
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But the main purpose of most of your posts is to try and appear more intelligent than everyone else.
Nah. I comment on like 4 topics. Just because I'm really interested in those topics doesn't mean I'm smarter than anyone.
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I’m certain in real life you’re a little guy who says very little
Sounds like you have some trauma to work through, man.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:22 pm to crazy4lsu
You’re the 1 who immediately called me a dumbass and other derogatory comments after posting your direct quotations. It’s ok though because it’s obvious this is where you feel superior, on your keyboard. Very revealing. Where do you practice or are you still in school?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:28 pm to minister of truth
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You’re the 1 who immediately called me a dumbass
Yeah I wonder why. Again, why did we refer to the Nuremburg Code if my explanation was simply post hoc?
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It’s ok though because it’s obvious this is where you feel superior, on your keyboard
Nah, I'd do the same if you were this glib in person too.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:35 pm to crazy4lsu
Sure you would. So your direct quotations that I originally posted were focused exclusively in relation to the nuremburg code? That’s the only relationship you were trying to illustrate between nazi experiments & the mandating of Covid vaccine you were replying to?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:52 pm to minister of truth
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So your direct quotations that I originally posted were focused exclusively in relation to the nuremburg code?
Read the section I quoted from Dgnx6 which starts with the phrase 'During Nuremburg.' And then read the very last sentence in that post where I literally refer to the Nuremburg Code again.
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That’s the only relationship you were trying to illustrate between nazi experiments & the mandating of Covid vaccine you were replying to?
Well. I think I was clear on what I was referring to, that the standards and practices of the medical sciences didn't suddenly change overnight with the writing of the opinion in US v Brandt. I made that clear in my reference when I said that you didn't see widespread adoption of those principles until some decades later. The implication by dgnx6 made it seem like those standards were developed and adopted overnight, but I know that wasn't the case. I used the example of Plotkin's rubella vaccine, because again, it was difficult to get informed consent for orphans. The more I look at that discussion between dgnx6 and I, the more I'm convinced you didn't read all that closely. Maybe I assumed that you were trying to use Mengele as some sort of gotcha, which is why I called you a dumbass, but looking back over the post, it seems clear what I was responding to and why I made the references I did. I don't see the evidence for me suggesting that I was talking about anything other than informed consent when referring to 'those types' of experiments, because otherwise why would I use the Plotkin example in that post?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:09 pm to crazy4lsu
Wow! Thanks for clarifying that for me! Don’t know how I didn’t understand that single simple concept from your quotes. You are really intelligent!!! If medicine gets old for you, you should join hank & displaced buckeye as a keyboard attorney. So again, are you in practice or still in medical school?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:22 pm to minister of truth
Lol your lack of reading ability isn't my fault my man. You are the one who apparently can misunderstand a post which starts with the quote 'During Nuremburg' and imply something entirely different from the content of the post, And given how few of my own questions you have answered, let alone the ones you did answer with some banal, bitter invective, I'm cool with leaving you hanging here. Given that you've doubled down on your misreading, with your other posts, I'm just gonna go ahead and assume bad-faith all around, and just mock you if I see you again. You should really learn to read though.
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:32 pm to crazy4lsu
Sounds like a plan. Seems to be in bad-faith though. You really like that term! Your example was weak and then you try compensating by immediately attacking someone who responds to it(using your own quotes) and then throw out tons of meaningless verbiage. Bad-faith “doctor”! See I know you’re not a doctor. Thanks for helping me with my research though!
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:37 pm to Aubie Spr96
Especially if they are still wearing a damn mask and trying to talk.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:39 pm to minister of truth
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See I know you’re not a doctor.
Lol, how much do you want to bet? You can easily guess where I am in my career based on my posts, because I don’t hide it. And look at your own posts my man. Like I said, you were interested in a gotcha and not elucidation, which is fine. I definitely play that game, although I’m not as pussy-soft when I get called on it.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:45 pm to crazy4lsu
Oh I know! You’re a badass! And the most intelligent doctor you know on top of it!
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:48 pm to minister of truth
Definitely not the most intelligent. You seem mad though lol.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:52 pm to crazy4lsu
You sure have plenty of time to post on a message board while in medical school. But I guess you already mastered anatomy, physiology, histology, pathology, pharmacology, ethics, statistics, etc. I on the other hand am semiretired & contract with the federal government, so plenty of time. Enjoyed our conversation!
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