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re: Navy Secretary Modly Walks The Plank
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:26 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:26 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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I think those who are not active underestimate an adversary intel's capability. Trust me, they know
I was in INSCOM my last assignment and yes that was a while ago. I don't underestimate their capabilities. It's still no excuse.
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:26 pm to 90proofprofessional
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90proofprofessional
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You Brown or Black?
Goes to prove you never served in a naval service.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:31 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Sounds like he's more concerned with keeping his rank and his career.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:34 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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Yep, he's still here.
That'd be the Strike Group Commander? Might be worth discussing why that person and the carrier CO are not the same person.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:36 pm to NC_Tigah
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Releasing information from a US Carrier to the entire globe is a damn bad habit. It's now happened twice in a short span.
Right.
Good intentions or not, it's still something that needs to be nipped in the bud and made quite clear that leaking sensitive information from a place like that has consequences. Precedent of these consequences force people in a position of authority to assess the situation as to whether not it's severe enough to justify falling on the sword.
If we allowed this to slide with no consequences, it would invite more leaking from authorities knowing their job is safe and we can't have that.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:36 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Goes to prove you never served in a naval service.
Maybe it just proves I didn't spend a great deal of time where aviators and SWOs are afloat together and those kinds of terms are used a lot.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:37 pm to Sentrius
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Good intentions or not, it's still something that needs to be nipped in the bud and made quite clear that leaking sensitive information from a place like that has consequences.
Of course. Obviously the skipper knew that, and did it anyway. And the crew knows it too.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:39 pm to SlackMaster
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I'm saying that this cancel culture BS infecting our military will greatly weaken us.
If a SECNAV acting like a dumbass causes our military to weaken, we aren't that strong, are we?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:42 pm to NC_Tigah
Actually Sir, I will debate it.
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Your C/O released materials concerning a combat ship's mission readiness to the public.
- No he did not. He sent a MFR to uniformed Naval Aviation Leadership detailing the realities of our struggle onboard.
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Your crew then followed suit in releasing the SecNavy conversation. Releasing information from a US Carrier to the entire globe is a damn bad habit. It's now happened twice in a short span. If you do not see a significant issue there, I can assure you you'd do well to reevaluate.
- I'm obviously in the minority here, but like we tell officers all the time, if you don't want to end up in the press don't do something you may come to regret. We are public servants. Outside of classified information or FOUO, nothing we do should be private. Every CVN in the Navy has a social media account. Nothing that was released by CO was operational damaging. It was the reality of the truth here, since that seemed to be a issue with us receiving support.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:42 pm to Sentrius
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The SECNAV made the right call. It's a shame he's resigning.
He's not resigning because of the call he made to relieve command. I'm not sure why this is hard to understand.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:43 pm to COTiger
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Sounds like he's more concerned with keeping his rank and his career.
That seems to be the sentiment
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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Your C/O released materials concerning a combat ship's mission readiness to the public. That is inexcusable. Sorry. Not debatable.
No he didn’t. Quit regurgitating nonsense
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:45 pm to 90proofprofessional
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Maybe it just proves I didn't spend a great deal of time where aviators and SWOs are afloat together and those kinds of terms are used a lot.
Hmmm, weak soup on that one buddy. As a straight leg JarHead I even knew immediately what he was talking about.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:46 pm to LSUFanHouston
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He's not resigning because of the call he made to relieve command. I'm not sure why this is hard to understand.
I didn't say that I opposed his resignation fwiw.
You're quoting an incomplete sentence on my part that I finished in another post. My mistake.
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And it's a shame he's resigning because he handled the situation so poorly even after he made the right call in relieving Crozier of command.
He may have made the right call to relieve Crozier of Command but he should've left it there and not do something stupid like hop on the redeye and fly 8000 miles to talk shite to the sailors Crozier left behind.
And thus his resignation was needed and appropriate.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:48 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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As a straight leg JarHead I even knew immediately what he was talking about.
well good on yut
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:56 pm to Sentrius
I have to agree with Trump (gulp) on the Captain. He made one move that can be criticized. One bad move on one hell of a bad day in one hell of a bad week. Killing his career over that seems like a step too far.
On the other hand, Modly was embarrassed and killed the Captain's career in an over reaction. Then he, a week later, flew to the carrier and made a horrible address to the crew of the ship. He didn't make one bad move, he made several over an extended period of time. Screw him.
On the other hand, Modly was embarrassed and killed the Captain's career in an over reaction. Then he, a week later, flew to the carrier and made a horrible address to the crew of the ship. He didn't make one bad move, he made several over an extended period of time. Screw him.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:04 pm to COTiger
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Sounds like he's more concerned with keeping his rank and his career.
Keeping his head down and his mouth shut. The best place to avoid the fray, is above the fray. The problem is that by flying out to Guam, Mr Modly couldn't have screwed up more the possibility the Navy will ever come to a conclusion in this matter. How do you possibly put an investigative review together that's impartial? The CNO and the VCNO were compromised by Mr Modly, simply because they had to know he was going to the TR. CINCPAC and his subordinate commands had to know. It's almost as comical as the email CC list. Like I said in a previous post, there's a lot of frick up to go around here.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:11 pm to 14&Counting
I’m ignorant but pose a question- is it possible that his speech is fireable because he’s a civilian blasting an officer to his former crew?
Would this have been completely acceptable if it had been an admiral above the captain giving that speech?
Would this have been completely acceptable if it had been an admiral above the captain giving that speech?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:18 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:listened to the entire soundcloud as well - I thought it was ridiculous. Could have stuck to the facts. So much unnecessary BS in that long winded speech. Listening to the audience reactions to what he was saying made it cringe-worthy. Not sure it's resign/fire worthy but definitely weird and avoidable.
I listened to the entire soundcloud of his speech to the crew and aside for an off-color word here or there,
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:21 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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Which is EXACTLY what happened to the CO.
Are you saying it is ok to leak classified documents if it is the truth? Not everything true are is suppose to be made public.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 6:40 pm
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