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Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:59 am to
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:59 am to
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Who has said anything about him being a model citizen? Why even bring up model citizenry if not to assert that maybe he did sort of deserve to die?


"Deserving to die" and performing actions leading to your death are two different things.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:02 am to
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If none of his history matters why did reporters tell us about his past including playing LB on his HS football team. That has no relevance to him being killed that day.



Because the media reporting is driven by a racial narrative, just like the defense of the McMichaels on this board is (albeit reversed).

Some in our society want to push the narrative that whites are “hunting” blacks, and others are glad when any black person with hint of prior criminality is removed from the population.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127289 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:02 am to
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performing actions leading to your death are two different things.


What things should the McMichaels have done differently?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31115 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:02 am to
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When?

He wasn't arrested, had no guns or drugs, maybe he was just rapping...

Wtf knows but frankly, it is bullshite the the Brunswick PD is releasing this video to try to make him look bad, its too late, gig is up. Brunswick PD unleashed the McDumbasses and they committed murder, which Brunswick and the DAs promptly covered up.

Time to burn it down


Yeah, the whole thing about police patrolling and investigating people hanging out in areas known to have high levels of crime is a tricky thing.

Some people and residents want police to do this for reducing the criminal element in their neighborhoods but it does seem against our rights.

It's an interesting issue.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136931 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:02 am to
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What things should the McMichaels have done differently?
Stayed in the goddamn truck!
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35645 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:03 am to
I'm not sure that it does require actual pointing of the firearm. Other than the "deadly weapon" element, you're looking at "reasonable apprehension" and "immediately receiving violent injury". The last element there is the tricky one in this situation, but I think the prosecution could satisfy all elements even without a "pointing".

The way that could be argued is that the coupling of a drawn firearm with commands to stop/surrender is enough to lead a reasonable person to believe that the failure to comply is backed up with the immediate threat of deadly force.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:03 am to
I must be over the target.....
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:04 am to
Have you seen the video of when he left the house under construction?

He runs like he's seen a ghost.

That doesn't make sense even if he was up to no good.

Was this guy mentally disabled?

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:05 am to
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and others are glad when any black person with hint of prior criminality is removed from the population.


Some of us are glad when repeat criminals of any skin color are removed from the population.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127289 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:05 am to
Yes. He does run out of the house at a pace I would not assume is for exercise.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19739 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:06 am to
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When those idiot fricktards in Nevada and Oregon refuse to cooperate with the government and "occupy" federal facilities for weeks/months at a time, why they're the greatest! Freedom fighters!

But one man in one rural southern county pushes back against comply or die and he's a terrible person for even attempting to assert his rights and his innocence.


What the hell kind of comparison is this?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31115 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:06 am to
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What things should the McMichaels have done differently?


to achieve what outcome?

This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127289 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:06 am to
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Some of us are glad when repeat criminals of any skin color are removed from the population.


That’s how I feel about the McMichaels. They shot a guy they chased and then lied to police.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:10 am to
If it turns out they sat around the trailer and just wanted to kill a random black guy, I'm right there with you.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:19 am to
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I'm not sure that it does require actual pointing of the firearm.


You’re right, it doesn’t

Which is why I said that
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:23 am to
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Some of us are glad when repeat criminals of any skin color are removed from the population.


Sure, but mountains of data from years on this board conclusively reveals there are a group of posters who take specific issue when it’s a black person being discussed.

And moreover, there’s a big distinction between “he got what he deserved” (he didn’t) and “they didn’t commit a crime by killing him”. The latter is not explained simply by being glad someone with a criminal record is dead.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35645 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:24 am to
Well I'll be, sure did. I read it wrong. Then I say it's an unimpeachable certainty.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:26 am to
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but mountains of data from years on this board conclusively reveals there are a group of posters who take specific issue when it’s a black person being discussed.



.....and?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:26 am to
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 8:31 am
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7856 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:30 am to
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Some of us are glad when repeat criminals of any skin color are removed from the population.


So you think people who got caught by police with half a joint and a legally bought handgun in their car deserve to die.

okay then
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