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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by Yat27
Austin
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:49 pm to
Live Free or Die
Posted by skullhawk
My house
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:50 pm to
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And if you are honest 40% is actually a very surprising figure given public perceptions of Welfare and SNAP...particularly on the right.


Not at all. The perception is reality.

When you factor in incarceration, 40% of blacks receive government assistance related to food compared to 12% for whites(and this includes hispanics who identify as whites).
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:53 pm to
Factor in incarceration?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:56 pm to
It's 33% without. Still pathetic.

Happy?

I think it's relevant to consider incarceration because a shite ton of those folks would be on social programs and they are being fed by your tax dollars in prison. The large black prison population makes the numbers look better.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:56 pm to
So those in jail are not being subsidised?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:00 pm to
There is a significant portion of the white population in Louisiana that still revels in Huey Long's anti wealth/education sentiment and will vote for big gov pols like JBE without a second's hesitation.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:11 pm to
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When one of those slime balls in Baton Rouge tell you they have to raise taxes remind them of the very small government in New Hampshire.


There are no utopias. Either you have a small state government and larger local governments, or a large state government and powerless local governments.

NH is a state with very little central control at the state level (hence why they only meet every other year and have no income or sales tax).

Most of the "government" functions in NH are performed at the local level.

Again... our total combined state and local tax rates, for all types of combined taxes and fees, is the 5th lowest in the country.

Our problem is not that we pay too much tax. Our problem is that what we do pay is pissed away.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:42 am to
You obviously did not pay attention to your links Judg7123.

The state and local tax burden in New Hampshire per capita is $70. In Louisiana it is $592. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

The percentages you refer too include their 5% income tax on dividends and interest. They have no income tax on regular income.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:46 am to
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The rhetoric on the subject often paints it as a program to help minorities.
Democrats are the ones who slim it that way any time they attempt to decrease the wasteful spending of those programs.

Don't act like that isn't the case.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:48 am to
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They have 400 members of their legesilature who meet every other year and get paid $200.

When one of those slime balls in Baton Rouge tell you they have to raise taxes remind them of the very small government in New Hampshire.


how many movies do they make there?

by the way i enjoyed parts of Abraham lincoln vampire hunter!
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:49 am to
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Again... our total combined state and local tax rates, for all types of combined taxes and fees, is the 5th lowest in the country.



You too are simply looking at the rates the Tax Foundation ranks on. If you read their methodology you will understand that does not necessarily correlate with the actual taxes collected per person.

As I have already posted that the combined local/state per capita tax collection in New Hampshire is only $70 compared to $592 in Louisiana.

There is absolutely no question we have elected to do things with government that New Hampshire does not do and it costs us in a HUGE way.

There is nothing further from the truth than your applied assumption that government is relatively the same size per capita in every state and only the level of government that funds and administration differs.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:54 am to
that is a very good example of the attitude of New Hampshire vs the attitude of Louisiana state government.

Film makers in New Hampshire get no special treatment. The New Hampshire Division of Film and Digital Media on their website point out these things that are available to all businesses.

quote:

New Hampshire is a place where artists can come to create. The beauty of New Hampshire’s mountains and waterways has been a source of inspiration for artists for hundreds of years. Artist colonies, retreats, and even a well-known school of painting are part of New Hampshire’s artistic legacy. New Hampshire has been both home and inspiration to a wide range of authors, poets, journalists, and publishers. New Hampshire has a vibrant and varied live theatre scene, ranging from community productions involving schools and local residents, to professional Equity theaters that operate year round, to theatre companies that operate during the summer months. New Hampshire is home to a variety of time-honored music and dance traditions, quality performance venues, and highly talented musicians. New Hampshire has also played the backdrop for numerous motion pictures, television programs, commercials, and still photography of all scopes and sizes.

Business-Friendly Climate

No use tax
No sales tax
No estate tax
No internet tax
No inventory tax
No capital gains tax
Low corporate income tax
No professional service tax
No broad base personal income tax
For more information about why you should bring your business to New Hampshire, visit www.nheconomy.com/Why-New-Hampshire/default.aspx.

Location Matching

We work to not only find the visually right location for your project, but one that is mutually beneficial to both project and community. We strive to make your production a satisfying experience for all involved. And, being from New England, we proudly possess a bit of Yankee ingenuity and are ready to help solve problems or find creative time and money-saving solutions unique to your project.

What others have to say about New Hampshire

“I thought that by becoming a documentary filmmaker I had suddenly just taken some vow of anonymity and poverty and had to go to some place where I thought I could live inexpensively. Guess what - you can do it inexpensively here in New Hampshire. But the real secret was because – I’m happy to say neither the poverty or the anonymity occurred – it also happens to be the best possible environment, and so I see it as the greatest single professional decision I've made.”

- Ken Burns, director, Baseball, Jazz, The War

"There are a lot of states that try to lure you with promises of tax incentives and the like, but the reality is that being film-friendly is about much more than that-and New Hampshire really defines film-friendly. Everyone here has been so incredibly helpful and welcoming, I don't know why we ever shoot anywhere besides New Hampshire."

- Michael Roiff, producer, In Your Eyes

“New Hampshire offers permit-free location possibilities running the gamut from sea to mountains, wilderness to urban, historic to contemporary, as well as no sales tax, a large experienced crew base, exceptional filmmaker networking, a state film office that partners with you for real and a quality of life that is second to none.”

- Buzz McLaughlin, executive producer, The Sensation of Sight

"Filming in New Hampshire is convenient, creatively inspiring for the crew and actors, cheap, and fun. New Hampshire offers abundant enthusiasm and cooperation from town governments, police departments, chambers of commerce, and townspeople, including a very enthusiastic state film commission with people on call 24 hours a day. I look forward to shooting up there again."

- Andy Robin, co-director, Live Free or Die


Isn't it interesting that people like Ken Burns film in New Hampshire while forgoing bribes in other states?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:55 am to
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innit?

oh for frick's sake
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49017 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:57 am to
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Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.
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Me thinks the issue is a bit more complicated than demographics.


Methinks you give substance to the notion that DIM/LIBs are pretty unacquainted with either logic or mathematics.
Posted by Judg7123
Member since Jan 2016
77 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:59 am to
IB

You're a smart guy but you clearly are getting your facts wrong here

$70 per capita taxes, that would mean their entire local and state spending is $70 million instead of the 12.5 billion it actually is

Is true that New Hampshire's state taxes at $1700 per capita are the lowest in the country, but their local taxes are among the highest, with property taxes on a median home about 400% higher than here

Tax foundations statistics are accurate they place all tax collections over all gross state income, nothing to do with the rate of their interest and dividend tax it has everything to do with what is the total tax collected and what is the entire possible tax base

And according to that statistic our taxes are lower
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:00 am to
Judg7123 You might want to read this---

LINK

How is it that New Hampshire with a legislature of 400 who are paid only $200 and meet only every other year is so much better for business than is Louisiana?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12888 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:02 am to
Not complaining about no income and sales tax but paying my property taxes and tax on investment income isn't exactly fun...there's a mess of fees, too, depending...
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:03 am to
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Isn't it interesting that people like Ken Burns film in New Hampshire while forgoing bribes in other states?


so you didn't like abraham lincoln vampire hunter?

how about 21 jump street or left behind?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:03 am to
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$70 per capita taxes, that would mean their entire local and state spending is $70 million instead of the 12.5 billion it actually is



It is simply the number in your link.

How much of their state budget is federal pass through?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:04 am to
Why is it so hard for you to admit you didn't know all the facts? Judg showed them to you. You would think it would make you happy. Instead you post about business environment? All you want to do is whine about Louisiana.
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