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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:17 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:17 am to
DiGenova and his wife Victoria----- Were on tick tock Hannity 10 years ago saying his sauces swore to got Comey was being arrested and perp walked at any moment.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12311 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:18 am to
I can still remember exactly where I was when Trump came out and said “Obama tapped my wires”.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36553 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:28 am to
2 years from now you guys will still be wishcasting on this subject.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33694 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:33 am to
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I am hearing “this” find the evidence that this is true

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471033 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:37 am to
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since it wasn’t a part of presidents function

Being the head of the various intelligence agencies, DOJ/FBI, and being the head of national security aren't core executive functions?

I swear these people debase themselves either for clicks or attention. It's insane
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471033 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:39 am to
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but was he not briefed in 2016 that the whole Russian interference narrative was a scheme cooked up by Hillary?

Russian interference/hacking is real

Trump's Russian collusion is the speculative/false conclusion at issue.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33694 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:40 am to
Writing fiction novels is part of the core executive function

-SFP
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14681 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:41 am to
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Newsmax reports that Digenova says Obama does not have immunity for the Russia Gate fraud and collusion since it wasn’t a part of presidents function…..


But, but, but I was told in no uncertain terms by SFP that sabotaging the future presidency and weakening the incoming president with known lies was a part of the president's function as the head of the IC. Newsmax and Digenova must not have consulted with the authority on the subject.

Good news is SFP will declare it a hanging offense when a republican does it to a marxist democrat.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16368 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:43 am to
Lol. That's what you call red meat.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471033 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:45 am to
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Writing fiction novels is part of the core executive function

-SFP

You're discussing the underlying behaviors, not the functions.

Y'all keep conflating the two. That's why people have turned it into "official acts"

Here is the relevant quote from the case:

quote:

Congress cannot act on, and courts cannot examine, the President’s actions on subjects within his “conclusive and preclusive” constitutional authority. It follows that an Act of Congress—either a specific one targeted at the President or a generally applicable one—may not criminalize the President’s actions within his exclusive constitutional power. Neither may the courts adjudicate a criminal prosecution that examines such Presidential actions. We thus conclude that the President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution for conduct within his exclusive sphere of constitutional authority.


Subjects within the “conclusive and preclusive” constitutional authority are the functions we're talking about. The underlying behaviors within those subjects/functions are irrelevant. You can't even get to that step due to the shield of immunity within the subject/function.

So, the question is, are the functions I listed conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority" of the President? And the answer is clearly yes.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5938 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:45 am to
And when they changed the assessment based on information that they knew was bogus . . . that was on the up and up?
Posted by lsutiger90
Cottage Grove, Houston, TX
Member since May 2004
1150 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:45 am to
If trying to cover up a burglary of the opposing party you didn’t order is a crime, I gotta believe illegally spying on the opposing party that you ordered may qualify as one as well!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471033 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:46 am to
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If trying to cover up a burglary of the opposing party you didn’t order is a crime

When was Nixon prosecuted?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87371 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:47 am to
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He didn’t trust or agree with what his advisors told him and told them to find the truth.


LINK

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The recently declassified material reveals former President Barack Obama sought to continue the Russia-collusion hoax Hillary Clinton had launched during the presidential campaign by directing select members of his intelligence community to craft the deceptive Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) on Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 election. However, a close reading of these documents reveals Obama holds even more culpability than previously discussed.


quote:

“Investigators as well as the ICA authors were denied access to a trove of information on grounds of executive or congressional privilege,” the HPSCI report explained. According to the report, one FBI analyst argued the intel should be shared with analysts, but “that the Obama Administration denied ICA drafters access to this intelligence on grounds of Executive or Congressional privilege.”


Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26359 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:21 am to
SFP and anyone saying he can't be charged are FOS/ Richard Nixon was pardoned by Gerald Ford for what reason if he was immune from prosecution?

A President in the performance of his duties, ie ordering military action or any other function of his office is immune.. But he can't commit crimes. He can't for instance just shoot someone in the head and say I m immune.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28667 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:23 am to
Hillary is wide open, dumb arse Biden didn't even auto pen her a pardon.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46949 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:29 am to
Sure, but we aren't really talking about that, are we? We are talking about ordering his political lackeys to direct the intelligence community to lie about a political rival in order to, at minimum, derail the government and possibly have a duly elected leader unlawfully deposed. I guess they though Susan Rice firing off an email on her last day in office would be enough to insulate them from that. LOL

But that being said, all this is just red meat. Forget about Obama. It ain't happening.

This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 8:43 am
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2761 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:31 am to
This is just a silly nonsensical response. You know good and well why Nixon wasn't prosecuted. Just silliness.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5938 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:35 am to
He won't be tried, but I would settle for him living out his days in disgrace. I'd also settle for a complete pantsing of everyone in the media who gleefully peddled these lies and who never showed any curiosity about the obvious flaws in the narrative.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4485 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:36 am to
Not a lawyer, but seems silly to get protection from purposeful political illegal acts just because you're in office.

Immunity from collateral damage of authorizing military strikes? Sure.

Telling the FBI/CIA what story you want them to tell even though it's against the actual intelligence? Nah.
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