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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:37 am to
Posted by BigTigerJoe
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:37 am to
What happens if he continued with activities related to the original conspiracy after he left office?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:47 am to
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Richard Nixon was pardoned by Gerald Ford for what reason if he was immune from prosecution?


The immunity decision was in 2024. When was Nixon pardoned?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:49 am to
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Sure, but we aren't really talking about that, are we?

I mean, people who want him to not be immune keep trying to change the facts and the discussion, accordingly, yes.

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We are talking about ordering his political lackeys to direct the intelligence community to lie about a political rival in order to, at minimum, derail the government

You've really framed the facts, but assuming this is all true, why wouldn't he be immune?

Remember the "Seal Team 6" hypos from the arguments about the immunity case? We're somewhat seeing one of those unfold in real time
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:49 am to
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but seems silly to get protection from purposeful political illegal acts just because you're in office.

Immunity from collateral damage of authorizing military strikes? Sure.

Telling the FBI/CIA what story you want them to tell even though it's against the actual intelligence? Nah.


Anyone care to bump the threads about the immunity case from last year?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46951 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:50 am to
It wouldn't have mattered anyway. Biden showed us that you can blanket-pardon "completely innocent people", so it would be racist to assume Nixon is a criminal just because he accepted Ford's pardon.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:51 am to
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What happens if he continued with activities related to the original conspiracy after he left office?

Then he wouldn't be immune, which is why you see hopium-infused theories trying to stretch what "conspiracy" is to both extend the SOL and remove immunity.

That's why you get talking point-based discussions trying to create that scenario.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:51 am to
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I can still remember exactly where I was when Trump came out and said “Obama tapped my wires”.


Thanks to Admiral Rodgers for that.

PS - Funny how SFPanican has never addressed the fact that Obama spied on Trump. Wonder why?
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:52 am to
If the facts say charge Obama it should happen IMO. Both for cause and to get a reading from the SCOTUS on the limits of the prior ruling on Presidential Immunity….
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46951 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:54 am to
right. regardless of SFPs verbal diarrhea, they can just do what democrats have repeatedly done.... twist the law to their will and make it happen.

But they wont do it. I can almost guarantee that Trump wont go there because he'd be inviting the same thing onto himself post-presidency. And you KNOW the dems wont be bashful about exacting revenge.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:56 am to
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Funny how SFPanican has never addressed the fact that Obama spied on Trump

Why do you lie so much?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471056 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:57 am to
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If the facts say charge Obama

From what we have now, they don't, even ignoring the immunity/SOL issues.

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Both for cause and to get a reading from the SCOTUS on the limits of the prior ruling on Presidential Immunity

The ruling last year already established this.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46951 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:57 am to
Wires were NOT ackshywully tapped!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471056 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:57 am to
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Wires were NOT ackshywully tapped!!!!



I never made that argument. I always called out muh Russia/Russian collusion as fake news.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36561 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:02 am to
Save it SFP, just go with the alternative reality they have created. Be a bro!!!
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4632 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:03 am to
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Russian interference/hacking is real


What is your source for this?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471056 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:05 am to
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What is your source for this?


The literal memo Tulsi released last week



If you want to claim that's wrong, then the analysis on the purported improprieties of the Obama admin should be discarded too, as they're from the same source.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4632 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:07 am to
I must have missed the hacking part
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
12200 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:08 am to
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Then he wouldn't be immune, which is why you see hopium-infused theories trying to stretch what "conspiracy" is to both extend the SOL and remove immunity.

Would be nice to see one of his conspirators flip on him and say he continued to conspire once he left office. Destroying his legacy is just as good as any conviction.

He would get pardoned for the good of the Nation; just like Nixon.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
47966 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:10 am to
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Why do you lie so much?


SFPanican


Were you looking in the mirror when you said this? You're the biggest liar here. You claim to be just the opposite of who and what you really are.

Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3340 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:11 am to
Susan Rice wrote the “ we did everything by the book” memo. Tends to imply that she knew she needed to CHA for what they did. She might flip on Obama….
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