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Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:36 am to
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:36 am to
There is no way to cite poverty as the reason for the extreme violence/terrible school performance. There is data from SAT scores that says to see comparable scores you have to compare white kids whose parents make $15,000 a year to black kids whose parents make $80,000.

Poverty definitely doesn't help, but it doesn't explain anywhere near all of it.
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:23 am to


Shocking........................


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Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:49 am to
If you want to think about it in another way. If we attribute all murders to people in poverty...

You would be more than TWICE as likely to cross paths with a poor white person.... but FOUR times more likely to be killed by a poor black person.

And we could say that same thing about rape, robbery, assault, and motor vehicle theft

Poverty
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 7:04 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
58542 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:53 am to
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Now imagine those rates if they cut off welfare benefits. Now do you understand why rich white people continue to vote for the nanny state?




It's harder to get in the types of trouble as indicated by the OP's stats when you're too busy working.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:00 am to
Alright, who’s going to sport this graphic as their avatar?

Someone send this to cracker Shaun King and watch him implode with anger
Posted by paul02085
Shelby, Al (Lay Lake)
Member since Sep 2006
1386 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:09 am to
Strange. I don't see the resident lefties commenting. Crickets
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29536 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:12 am to
Proves white privilege. Whitey gettin' away all kinda shite.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55453 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:13 am to
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Strange. I don't see the resident lefties commenting. Crickets


The talking points haven't been released yet.

Plus addressing and fixing this ends their party.
Posted by westsidetiger4
Member since Aug 2017
20 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:53 am to


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Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:04 am to
I don't think those percentages are correct. It's around 52% for murder. Might want to double check that

If you really want your mind blown look at the arrests under 18....
Blacks account for 413 of 679 arrests for murder
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:11 am to
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Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2879 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:12 am to
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Poverty begets poverty and theyve been beaten down throughout most of United States history. So I know you think you're being cute but the reality is you're ignoring a serious glaring problem that is our history. And before you give me some b******* about a guy coming up out of the out of the projects and making money for himself it's not a common story that's why it's such a celebrated one


The problem with the poor black community is a cultural problem. Many of these individuals are comfortable in their lifestyles, and have zero ambition to leave. They enjoy the drama and they have come to "expect" the way to go through life is to collect a government check.

For the ones who do not find solace in this lifestyle (the minority), they get out. And yes there are ways out. The military being a very viable option, as well as the many scholarships available to the black community. The parent(s)unfortunately are mainly to blame as they are often absent from their children's life both physically and emotionally, thus creating a perpetual cycle of poverty and crime.

The problem begins and ends with the black community. The only way to fix it is for their community to step up and make changes that will go forward and truly make long-term changes. The problem with that type of change is you have to get the majority to buy in, a feat I do not believe will happen anytime in the near future.

I grew up in a heavily black and white community and there were good and bad on both sides. Unfortunately the ones who were bad came from poverty-stricken areas but they (for the most part) seemed to accept it with a sense of pride. Take that pride away and maybe that's a start...
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20076 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:19 am to
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11% of whites are in poverty 25% of blacks are in poverty Run the numbers and that's.... 25.5 million whites 11.3 million blacks So more than twice as many whites living in poverty. So please explain how poverty is the cause of the violence we see. And just for the record American Indians and Eskimos have the highest rate of poverty at 27%. We stole their land, exterminated most of their population, put them on reservations, and they live in high rates of poverty... And they don't bitch 0.0000001% as much as the group in question Eta: I didn't know the answer to your statement when I first saw it. I found the data in about 5 seconds. It just shows you parrot typical liberal talking points and don't want to actually do some research and look at the facts


This really blows the typical BLM Marxist talking points away....I would like to hear some BLM supporters try to explain this?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27284 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:44 am to
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So 15 % of the population is committing most crimes.


It's actually worse than that. The vast majority of those crimes are committed by black males. The vast majority of those males committing the crimes are roughly 16-35 years old. You have roughly 3-4% of the country's population committing most of the crimes.

People are worried about ISIS coming to America when we've got our own homegrown version of terror right here. Best part is, these thugs were raised by the government. That's right. The US tax payer birthed, fed, clothed, and housed all of these super predators. Uncle Sam is a sponsor of terror.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45129 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:49 am to
All of this can be laid at the feet of one Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Posted by Rawdawgs
Member since Dec 2007
910 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:07 am to
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It's mind-blowing that 13% of the population commits more murder and manslaughter than the other 87% combined. Must be the mean old white supremacists causing all that dysfunction.


It is worse than that. Blacks make up 13% of the population. Black males half of that. The vast majority of crime is black males age 16-30 yrs old. We are talking about 3-4% of the population being responsible for half the murders in this country. And yet they are outraged that their interaction with police tends to be slightly more confrontational than that of other races.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:16 am to
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Eta: I didn't know the answer to your statement when I first saw it. I found the data in about 5 seconds. It just shows you parrot typical liberal talking points and don't want to actually do some research and look at the facts


"If you control for deprivation, people of different races ought to be similarly predisposed to commit crime. Or that’s the theory, at least.

There is a lot of research in this area, but a lot of it is contradictory.

This study of violent crime in deprived neighbourhoods in Cleveland, Ohio, found that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas, suggesting poverty, not race, is the biggest factor."

[link=(www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime)]Do Blacks Commit More Crime[/link]

"All sociologists have suffered from the same basic problem: finding urban white communities that are as disadvantaged as the poorest black neighbourhoods, so that you can get a fair comparison."




Its certainly true that black culture needs improvement but youre acting like they havent been disenfranchised and that they arent overly incarcerated.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:17 am to
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certainly true that black culture needs improvement but youre acting like they havent been disenfranchised and that they arent overly incarcerated.


Overincarceration s related to criminal activity. I don't think this is debatable
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:32 am to
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Overincarceration s related to criminal activity. I don't think this is debatable



And we have a higher incarceration rates at almost any civilized country. You can try to blame that on crime all you like. I say that our way of rehabilitating people actually makes it worse.

It's already known that people who don't have both a father and a mother and their household are more likely to commit crimes. Well if such a high percentage of black males are incarcerated then they're going to have children who are raised without a father. Just continues the cycle
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156665 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:36 am to
Stop committing crimes and the cycle is interrupted.
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