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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78785 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am to
the lawn is pretty clear you’re allowed to be horrible with your speach

but there are lines you can’t cross.

The issue i see is that the protest are towing and crossing the line into just pure harassment of jewish students at these universities.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74100 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:37 am to
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Conservatives don't care about free speech unless that speech already aligns with their views.


interesting coming from a COVIDIAN truther
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:42 am to
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Yes, he violently took over buildings during which innocent people were assaulted and held hostage. He in engaged in activities that denied other students their right to attend classes without being harassed or assaulted.

Anyone trying to claim this guy was just exercising free speech is a liar or a moron.


Can you post a link showing that Mahmoud Khalil did any of those things? I've searched, and I can't find it. I, like everyone else knows what the Government has accused him of, but I can't find one single link that asserts he did any of those things.

I know he was a high profile protest leader and that he mediated between the people who took over the building and University administration. I also know he had no part in taking over the building, and despite his loud mouth and protestations, there's not one single twat or twatter video showing he violated the rights of Jewish students, abused or harassed them. There's not one single instance that I can find where he openly supported Hamas.

Any link would be appreciated.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39505 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:42 am to
There he is, another one of the cadre of retards who hangs on my every word!
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:45 am to
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I think the point everyone is missing is this is not just about free speech. They took over a building and assaulted people. It would be one thing if they were just hanging around outside in their designated area, holding signs and talking but that is not what they did.


Can you post a link showing that Mahmoud khalil did either of those things? I'd like to read more about it and I can't find anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:47 am to
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The issue i see is that the protest are towing and crossing the line into just pure harassment of jewish students at these universities.


This is a Columbia issue. Columbia has always been a hotbed of radicalism, and always will be.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:49 am to
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So, you think foreigners have the right to come here, hate our country, assault our people, destroy our property, and create chaos all in the name of free speech?

That's as insane as believing that every third world miscreant deserves to live in the US or that every kid shat out here by a foreigner deserves citizenship.

This whole "let's shoot ourselves in the foot so we can talk about how virtuous we are" shtick is utterly ridiculous. You people will stand by and watch our country burn while patting yourself on the back for how principled you are.

Giving people who hate you and your country the ability to disrupt your society is fricking retarded. When did conservatives lose their common sense?

Conservatives are mostly against the freedom to do drugs because it is harmful. Yet, drugs only screw over the user. Some conservatives are against letting free citizens hurt themselves, but have no problem with foreigners hurting our people in the name of freedom. There is no consistency or common sense in many of the arguments used by the virtuous conservative crowd


No, I don’t think so at all. I think people like that should be deported or not allowed in the country. Can you post a link however asserting that Mahmoud Khalil did any of those things?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:01 am to
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This is all disingenuous. The right to free speech is inalienable, but that doesn't matter in this case. Khalil had his green card. revoked because he was inciting violence which has never been protected speech.

It is one thing to say "Biden's policy on Israel and Palestine is bad." It is quite another to say "Biden's Policy on Israel and Palestine is bad, and we mist fight the zionists until they are driven from our lands and destroyed."


Do you have a link to any evidence of Mamoud khalil doing this? I've looked and I can't find it. He was a vocal protest leader and loud mouth. There was audio and video everywhere, at all times and I can't find one single audio or more importantly video clip of Mahmoud Khalil inciting violence, harassing students or violating anyone's rights. Additionally, I can't find anything showing he openly supported Hamas.

If you have a link, please post it. I'd like to read more about it.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41075 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:03 am to
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crazy4covid


You’re legitimately a bad person.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:04 am to
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Didn't this guys infractions extend beyond speech to include actions that were possibly illegal?


Well that's really the question. We're waiting for the government (the government we all apparently trust now) to tell us.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:08 am to
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Is hamas NOT a terrorist org? Last I checked, they are. If you are chanting pro-hamas things in America you can and should be removed. That's not "larping" it's called not being a moron.


Can you post a link showing Mamoud khalil doing this? I'd like to watch it.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2101 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:14 am to
That is a reasonable position. I disagree to some extent, but I understand your point and it is a good one.

What about leading/organizing a protest that ended up denying students the ability to attend classes, to access parts of campus, and where threats were made to Jewish students?

Not sure if this guy was actually a leader of the protests, but assume ge was one of them.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25745 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:16 am to
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No. And especially not if they lied on their green card application, and ESPECIALLY not if they are screaming about death to america and global intifada. Terrorists have no "right" to be here.

Well, yes, they do. That’s exactly what the green card conveys.

Now, if you want to argue they should not have one (which you seem to be), that’s another issue. What is your evidence he lied on his application?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39505 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:24 am to
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You’re legitimately a bad person.



Nah
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:26 am to
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That is a reasonable position. I disagree to some extent, but I understand your point and it is a good one.

What about leading/organizing a protest that ended up denying students the ability to attend classes, to access parts of campus, and where threats were made to Jewish students?

Not sure if this guy was actually a leader of the protests, but assume ge was one of them.


He was one of them. He was a leader and vocal loudmouth, and I'm all for deportation if the Government can reasonably assert he did any of the things this board believes he did. As an American citizen, I would like to see the evidence. I don't want that withheld from me.

The degree to which we as Americans want to hold an individual accountable for the actions of others in a protest situation can be discussed. But as far as Mamoud khalil goes, I would like someone to point out individual actions on his part that rise to the level of deportation.

I've searched and I simply can't find it, and unlike alot of folks on this board, I don't share this new found trust in Government and its accusations.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:28 am to
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LINK


CNN shows pro hamas flyers being distributed.

He’s also a member of pro hamas organizations.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:32 am to


Have you ever posted a tweet from someone who doesn't want to literally exterminate the Jews?

What if you found out that all of your Joo hatred was aChinese psyop?

Woke Right X is worse than the Shitlib Tranny Antifa Free Hamas Tards of the left these days.


When you are defending Hamas and raping girls and charcoaling babies you may want to take a break from the internet.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 10:34 am
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16359 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:32 am to
Liberals don't care about free speech so neither should conservatives now that they are in power.

I'm all for gestapo style squads forcibly removing shitheads from this country that are only here to disrupt and change out way of life.

But they know Americans will not allow this to happen so they have won and it's only a matter of time before they turn this country into what Europe is right now.

People not willing to fight for their freedom and way of life deserve neither.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:33 am to
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quote]LINK ]

CNN shows pro hamas flyers being distributed.

He’s also a member of pro hamas organizations.


You linked an Instagram post that tells me it's unavailable.

Is there evidence of Mamoud khalil personally handing out those fliers? Can you link the CNN article saying he's a member of pro hamas organizations? I would like to read it.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31200 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:35 am to
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Do green card holders have a right to be here?



nope
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