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re: People should wear masks for the economy.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Then the onus is on those who are more likely to get Corona to stay home and let everyone else live their lives.
The minority needs to bend to the needs of the majority, THAT is personal responsibility.
The minority needs to bend to the needs of the majority, THAT is personal responsibility.
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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masks have almost 0 cost
the associated benefit, therefore, doesn't have to be very large to make it a rational decision
You think universal mask wearing at all times isn't costly? Good gracious.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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he said it gave false confidence for wearers, which was my point. the masks wearers need to be effective are a completely different ballgame and have to be worn perfectly, etc. you can't fiddle with them or drop your guard and touch your face b/c you have one
Right, and think about how trashy the average person is. That mask they're putting on has been on restaurant tables, near baby changing stations, on the floor, in the center console of their vehicle, etc etc
Combine that with the fiddling/increased touching face
It's a bad enough idea to mandate to adults, now imagine kids at school
The whole thing is preposterous, surely you can see that
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:03 am to BarberitosDawg
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I was in Japan in 1984 people wore masks when they felt they might have a contagious cold
If I felt that I had the contagious cold I would stay home and have no need to wear a mask.
Now explain how making healthy people wear masks helps protect anyone else?
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
How did you determine to believe the about face as true?
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:03 am to BarberitosDawg
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:05 am to Sasquatch Smash
Mask wearing isn't about spreading disease, it is another way to divide people. And it works.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:05 am to oogabooga68
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Then the onus is on those who are more likely to get Corona to stay home and let everyone else live their lives.
if i were more at risk i would certainly be engaging in more costly behaviors
however, masks are still almost 0 cost
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The minority needs to bend to the needs of the majority,
you don't think they are?
that won't eliminate the spread issues potentially seeping into their lives, even if they are minimizing contact with others
again, masks cost almost 0
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:05 am to therick711
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You think universal mask wearing at all times isn't costly?
how is it costly?
i'm speaking from the individual level (hence, personal responsibility) but i'm curious to hear this hot take
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:07 am to RidiculousHype
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Right, and think about how trashy the average person is. That mask they're putting on has been on restaurant tables, near baby changing stations, on the floor, in the center console of their vehicle, etc etc
masks aren't being promoted to protect the wearer
how many times do i have to say that for y'all to understand?
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The whole thing is preposterous,
oh it's extreme. i'm not debating that
the problem is i don't think anti-mask people want to honestly admit the extreme situation CV-19 is
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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how is it costly?
i'm speaking from the individual level (hence, personal responsibility) but i'm curious to hear this hot take
Everyone needs uncontaminated masks every time they take them off. They need to wash every time they touch them. They need to wash their hands after removal. They need to wear it at all times to protect any cohorts at home. If you are eating or drinking, you need to be in a clean environment separate from others. Correct mask wearing is very difficult.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:08 am to therick711
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How did you determine to believe the about face as true?
it's logical and falls in line with other behaviors of the time trying to protect PPE for HCW
if this is some NWO thing to turn society into sheep, why did they let Fauci make the initial statement?
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:08 am to LSURep864
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's logical and falls in line with other behaviors of the time trying to protect PPE for HCW
if this is some NWO thing to turn society into sheep, why did they let Fauci make the initial statement?
It's interesting that you would choose to believe that the advice that is unsupported by the science is the lie. His first statement was logical. His second statement is illogical based on the published studies.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:11 am to therick711
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Everyone needs uncontaminated masks every time they take them off. They need to wash every time they touch them.
this is for protecting the wearer. there isn't the same level of care necessary to protect spread (b/c it's about dispersing the particles to reduce load and it doesn't have to be perfectly "closed")
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They need to wash their hands after removal.
different behavior, but yes
hand washing is also a very low-cost behavior
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They need to wear it at all times to protect any cohorts at home
i have been making this argument for people who have possibly at risk people in their home
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Correct mask wearing is very difficult.
sure if you're talking about wearing them to protect wearers
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:11 am to BarberitosDawg
As I would say it’s a thing to consider , I have a bit different take . As man is just another creature on this earth we have all but lost our immunity . All other mammals, and feathered friends can drink pond water and scavenge for week old meat . We get sick when the wind blows something our way or eggs sit out all day . We should be looking to build our system back up without drugs . Super bugs and viruses should be but a blip then .
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:11 am to LSURep864
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Look at Japan and specifically Tokyo. They’ve had a culture of wearing masks for decades and the way Japan and Tokyo has handled COVID proves that The governor of New York is a total inept clown.
Tokyo has 8,600 total cases in a MASSIVE city. I don’t think COVID is the bogey man nor the plague. However I realize if we all just wear a mask and wash our hands this shite would be so dead CNN would come up with some new scandal.
I don’t wear a mask because I’m afraid of dying of COVID. I wear it because it’s been proven by Japan to work. The sooner we just get on board the sooner the fear porn liberals love will die out and we can get the economy cooking again.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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the problem is i don't think anti-mask people want to honestly admit the extreme situation CV-19 is
Maybe because it's NOT to the overwhelming majority of human beings on the fking planet.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:12 am to therick711
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His second statement is illogical based on the published studies.
the one cited earlier said that hand washing and cleaning surfaces also couldn't prevent flu transmission
clearly that is not true
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
What is the difference if a bunch of wearers contract the virus or a bunch of wearers give it to someone else? 
The cost is high, the benefit is nil. The government mandating it, we agree, is asinine. I think neither of us is moving on the issue. Have a good one. Stay safe.
The cost is high, the benefit is nil. The government mandating it, we agree, is asinine. I think neither of us is moving on the issue. Have a good one. Stay safe.
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