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re: Pope rebukes climate deniers as 'perverse'
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:38 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:38 am to cajunangelle
My guess is that he has not watched Spotlight yet 
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:39 am to cajunangelle
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Pope
I imagine if Jesus came back today he would treat the pope and bishops and priests exactly like he treated the pharisees.
Did the pope forget this shite:
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Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." Romans 13:1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God.
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My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But now my kingdom is not from the world
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:28 am to Breesus
Popes a Commie...you can tell his faith means little to him. Politics is all that matters.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:30 am to cajunangelle
Looks like a bunch of Catholic baws going to be doing some cross deals with their hands and spinning them beads in their hands for a while for all this blasphemy.
Sure don't see them saying all this in their church on Saturday night.
Sure don't see them saying all this in their church on Saturday night.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:36 am to cajunangelle
Maybe if the Pope finds a priest who is a climate denier, he can move him to another church before anyone finds out?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:12 am to cajunangelle
What an abuse of perceived power. He's just an empty robe socialist.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:30 am to cajunangelle
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Pope
is a Dem wet dream
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:33 am to cajunangelle
quote:The Obama progs moved heaven and earth to get the last pope to resign (for the first time in 600 years) and install this marxist progressive. A lot of it can be explained off by his apologists as being in line with his Jesuit roots, but not all of it. From homos to global warming to wealth redistribution, this pope has never seen a leftist cause he didn't like.
We have a very political Pope. Unprecedented to call people perverse because they realize global warming is a scheme for global tax. What in the name of God is the matter with this Pope? Political marxist or antipope, or both?
Elect a communist president, get communist meat puppetry.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:13 pm to BamaChemE
quote:eh, yes and no
According to the prophecy of the Popes by St Malachy, the Benedict was supposed to be be the last one.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:07 pm to cajunangelle
climate change - global warming is a population control gimmick
Posted on 11/16/17 at 5:57 pm to cajunangelle
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Has the Pope been rebuked on any other matters you are aware of?
Nope. I linked to that very filial correction letter in a post of mine of from October 7. I support that the Catholic scholars are pushing back on Amoris Laetitia, but I think it's a bad idea for them to phrase it in terms of accusing Pope Francis of heresy.
This is a guy who makes a huge point out of "collegiality" (even though he is quite snippy and authoritarian) and not creating new doctrine, so to accuse him of "heresy" really seems to miss the mark, in my opinion. Sure, you can have a hair-splitting debate about whether certain things he's written allude to a need for "meet me where I am" complacency and gradualism to aspiring to a sinless life that's contrary to specific infallible statements, but that's a really theoretical and yawn-inducing point, and Francis's written statements are typically so vague and fuzzy that it's pointless to try to call them heretical.
The larger point, in my view, is that he is quite openly chastising and mocking anyone who thinks Catholic moral doctrines are important, and trying to place a fetishization of oppressed groups and people who left the Church at the center of religious practice, rather than focusing on internal conversion and repentance to universal truths. I get that it's important to try to be understanding of people who are hurt by the injustice and rejection they experience in the world and all that, but the core of Christianity is growing in wisdom and love of the laws of God, and offering to share this love to anyone else who is open to it. Seeking to help them materially or socially should always be secondary to the core mission of pointing them toward God's laws.
(About the trying too hard to placate people who leave the Church, this is a phenomenon that the Protestants are having to deal with as well. In changing your own doctrine to court people offended by Christian teachings, you may win them back and let them feel good about returning to their old childhood churches, but one, that doesn't mean they've really returned in their hearts, and two, it's an absolutely terrible strategy for long-term church growth for attracting people who were not born into your church.)
Anyway, a few years back, I didn't know what to make of this pope, and was questioning whether he had diabolical intentions. Now I've learned not to sweat it so much anymore. I think he's likely an atheist using his position as a vehicle for his weird worldview, but ultimately, it doesn't matter if he is or not. He's gradually losing power and turning into an object of jokes, he's not changing the Catholic interpretation of the core deposit of faith from Jesus's revelation to the Apostles, and this papacy too shall pass.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:06 pm to cajunangelle
They're just ignorant, perverse is WAY too strong a word.
Everyone is ignorant on certain topics, and frankly apart from collapsing the global economy no political maneuver will stop the processes in question. We're just gonna have to deal with the consequences. The denial of climate change ultimately doesn't matter much, because the proposed measures to stop it aren't gonna help.
Everyone is ignorant on certain topics, and frankly apart from collapsing the global economy no political maneuver will stop the processes in question. We're just gonna have to deal with the consequences. The denial of climate change ultimately doesn't matter much, because the proposed measures to stop it aren't gonna help.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:07 am to cajunangelle
He's also just been rebuked quite well and concisely by a conservative Anglican (they still exist?), Gerald McDermott, writing a short 8-paragraph piece for First Things (" Is Pope Francis a Liberal Protestant?"):
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I take no pleasure in Rome’s travails. For decades, orthodox Anglicans and other Protestants seeking to resist the apostasies of liberal Christianity have looked to Rome for moral and theological support. Most of us recognized that we were really fighting the sexual revolution, which had coopted and corrupted the Episcopal Church and its parent across the pond. First it was the sanctity of life and euthanasia. Then it was homosexual practice. Now it is gay marriage and transgender ideology. During the pontificates of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, we non-Catholics arguing moral theology could point to learned and compelling arguments coming out of Rome and say, in effect, “The oldest and largest part of the Body of Christ agrees with us, and it does so with remarkable sophistication.”
Those of us who continue to fight for orthodoxy, in dogmatic as well as moral theology, miss those days when there was a clear beacon shining from across the Tiber. For now, it seems, Rome itself has been infiltrated by the sexual revolution. The center is not holding.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 1:32 pm to cajunangelle
frick the pope
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:19 pm to cajunangelle
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because they realize global warming is a scheme for global tax.
My gawd, FNC and Rush really have you people brainwashed. Sad. Btw, the vast majority of the world's scientists agree with the Pope on anthropogenic climate change, not with Trump and Limbaugh.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:21 pm to cajunangelle
“How to get liberal’s to quote the Pope” for $300 Alex
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:28 pm to cajunangelle
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In his landmark 2015 environmental encyclical, Francis said global warming is "mainly" due to human activity
Did not know he is a climatologist. Dude is really branching from covering up pedophilia.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 4:08 pm to cajunangelle
This Pope is perverse.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 4:10 pm to cajunangelle
Ignoring the truth for political expediency shows poor moral character. He is right.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 4:13 pm to cajunangelle
The pope can blow me, hows that for perverse
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