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Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:51 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91484 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:51 am to
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Want to know why? "Portfolio Management" was the majority of the increase. It was up 5.8% MoM.


it was not the majority of the increase and you know that. The weighting for it is tiny.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22553 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:51 am to
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with CPI better than expected, and PPI worse than expected, this means the companies are accepting a large portion of the tariff burden. We need to see if CPI increases more than expected next month. See if the Producers pricing is passed onto Consumer prices, capiche?


I think this is accurate. It seems likely that companies are willing to absorb a short term hit to not shock consumers but they're not going to accept a long term cut to their margins. The tariffs are still volatile and uncertain so they don't want to bake them in right away when Trump could cancel/delay them tomorrow. If they remain long term, we're going to see them passed on to the consumer. CEOs have said as much.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95813 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:51 am to
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Did you look at the breakdown at all?

Bond market has completely disregarded this number


They have no idea how to read the report. They just react to the headline

No one cares about PPI as the matket is showing
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2721 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:53 am to
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I will just wait for the revision until I panic

Correct,
Afterall these are BLS numbers and they always jump about.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:53 am to
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They have no idea how to read the report.





Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22553 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:53 am to
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Congratulations to SFP and Roger; something bad may be happing to the USA, so they can finally celebrate.

Until the real numbers come out, anyway.


This is such a bitchmade argument. Posters are warning that bad things are going to happen, get down voted to hell and name-called for it, then when they're proven right y'all tuck tail and say "wow bro why do you want bad things to happen to America?"
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28372 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:55 am to
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it was not the majority of the increase and you know that. The weighting for it is tiny.


Almost all the increase was in services. due to Portfolio management.

show your ignorance some more.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95813 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:56 am to
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Congratulations to SFP and Roger; something bad may be happing to the USA, so they can finally celebrate.

Until the real numbers come out, anyway.


So true

Look how happy they are. Slackster probably jerked in his mouth while reading cnbc. That clown ingeniro is also giddy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470812 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:56 am to
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Congratulations to SFP and Roger; something bad may be happing to the USA


And here it is "SFP may be right, but it's terrible for us so he's terrible for being right".

This isn't about being "bad" or "good", it's about analyzing the most optimal policies given our current status-market conditions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470812 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:57 am to
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I think this is accurate. It seems likely that companies are willing to absorb a short term hit to not shock consumers but they're not going to accept a long term cut to their margins. The tariffs are still volatile and uncertain so they don't want to bake them in right away when Trump could cancel/delay them tomorrow. If they remain long term, we're going to see them passed on to the consumer. CEOs have said as much.


Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:57 am to
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RogerTheShrubber


Dude, you don't need to every again try and put on an economist hat. You were damn near suicidal with your little $3K investment that I'm sure you sold low, and would probably be worth $4.5K by now, enough for your used 4 wheeler. Idiots like SFP are playing a role on this board, for some weird reason. But you, you are genuinely off, by a good bit. Seek help.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470812 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Posters are warning that bad things are going to happen, get down voted to hell and name-called for it, then when they're proven right y'all tuck tail and say "wow bro why do you want bad things to happen to America?"


Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:58 am to
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Can someone explain how or if this can be attributed to tariffs?


well, Roger and SFP are now economists, who have expertise in the field of Tariffs, so I'm sure they will be along to explain it all to you.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14553 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:59 am to
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.9% month over month



to be revised back down in 2-3 months.....just like employment numbers
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91484 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:59 am to
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SDVTiger


Ahh. The interest rate savant has arrived. I’m sure you’ll be right eventually.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95813 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:59 am to
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Can someone explain how or if this can be attributed to tariffs?


well, Roger and SFP are now economists, who have expertise in the field of Tariffs, so I'm sure they will be along to explain it all to you.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:59 am to
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Dude, you don't need to every again try and put on an economist hat.


How would you know? Youre ignorant as frick on the subject.

A month ago you dipshits were celebrating the fact that trump was destroying the system to rebuild, now you bitches are waffling again.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91484 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:00 am to
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to be revised back down in 2-3 months.....just like employment numbers


thanks for admitting you have no clue about the topic at hand.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:00 am to
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to be revised back down in 2-3 months..


Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3790 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:01 am to
Hello Stagflation..... Ffs.
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