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re: Profound statement on the acceptable rate of crime

Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:59 pm to
Somebody has to do it
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:00 pm to
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We're talking like 50 years of data


That is being debunked as we speak.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471589 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:00 pm to
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That is being debunked as we speak.


Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7164 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
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There is more to it than just the graph. It's just a good picture for message board purposes.

There is a very strong link/correleation between lead exposure and criminal behavior.


That could be, but adding a double X axis with the same measurement could make anything line up.

I could make the use of antibiotics line up with the black plague.

There are good reasons people say Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5870 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:05 pm to
Look to the numbers that will be edited in the future. Similar to bidens employment statistics and inflationary numbers. You know this but you do you. Meanwhile we laugh as your ignorance continues on this venue.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:06 pm to
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So you discount things that make the crime rate appear low. Things we know happen. Things like underreporting and decriminalizing things that should remain criminalized?


I don't discount them. I just can't qualify them. What percent of crimes go underreported? When you say decriminalization things that should remain criminal what are you talking about there? How do you determine what should still remain criminalized? And finally what stats do you have around how much this occurs?

While I have no doubt the data we have on crime isn't perfect I have major skepticism in completely ignoring obvious trends in lower violent crime.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:06 pm to
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There is a very strong link/correleation between lead exposure and criminal behavior.


We should do a deep dive into lead exposure and WW2 sensitivity in Memphis, St Louis, New Orleans, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia.

The lead exposure is out of control. The WW2 PTSD knows no limits.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32902 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:07 pm to
Swivel hipster promises all cities are safe. This is fake news
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3707 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:11 pm to
But the lib talking point is crime in DC has gone down!

So no need to try to bring it down more? Freaking idiots. Instead of standing behind a talking point - state why you are pissed about lowering crime.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13410 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:14 pm to
Dude, I was talking about NYC, specifically Manhattan. And we all know exactly why for a time it was one of the safest major cities in the world.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471589 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:15 pm to
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Dude, I was talking about NYC, specifically Manhattan.

My comment applies there, too.

In real time people thought it was Rudy G, but that's basically been disproven, as crime fell as much (if not more) basically everywhere and nobody else followed his lead.

*ETA: this is one of those things Gen-X and Millennials experienced in real time and never questioned it and resist learning it was wrong.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12708 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:22 pm to
The fact that people think safety in the dead of night is a requirement and not a luxury really tells you how soft and stupid folks are these days.

Feeling safe to be out alone late at night is not exactly a common feature of human civilization.

I’d love to live in such a place but I didn’t even expect it in my rural county seat hometown with astronomically low crime statistics.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13410 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:25 pm to
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In real time people thought it was Rudy G, but that's basically been disproven, as crime fell as much (if not more) basically everywhere and nobody else followed his lead.


Absolutely untrue. Crime did not drop everywhere to the extent it did in NY. And it wasn’t just Rudy. Bloomberg continued the program.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10254 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:30 pm to
As someone who once lived in the DC metro, I still have multiple friends who live in the area. They tell me they never go into the metro after dark … never.

Even areas that were once safe, like Alexandria, have become no-go zones after dark due to high crime.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471589 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Crime did not drop everywhere to the extent it did in NY.

You need to go check your data.

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And it wasn’t just Rudy. Bloomberg continued the program.

And how did crime fall everywhere else in places who never engaged in one of those programs?

In fact, crime rates were falling in NYC before Rudy even became mayor

He was just in the right place at the right time and got credit he didn't deserve.

It's like the famous quote from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

quote:

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4348 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:32 pm to
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I don't discount them. I just can't qualify them. What percent of crimes go underreported?


Recent revelations are telling us. Everyone should know soon.

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When you say decriminalization things that should remain criminal what are you talking about there? How do you determine what should still remain criminalized? 


Please tell me you know about theft being decriminalized in many areas.

2019 also showed us vandalism and arson are not criminal actions anymore.

But all of this is besides the point.

The point, as it stands, is that there are places in this country too insafe to walk at night. This is true.

All I see is you and an ambulance chaser trying to say this isn't true, or if it is true, it isn't a bad thing.

Why? Why would this not bother you?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4348 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:35 pm to
Stick to the facts there little fella.

Facts are, there are many places in this country where it is unsafe to walk at night.

Why are you defending this?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471589 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:40 pm to
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Facts are, there are many places in this country where it is unsafe to walk at night.

Why are you defending this?


The point is that it's much safer to walk at now now than compared to 1975-1995, and crime is going back down (Which is a good thing).

I'm only defending those points.

*ETA: I'll add a third: this isn't a partisan issue
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:42 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4348 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:42 pm to
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The point is that it's much safer to walk at now now than compared to 1975-1995, and crime is going back down (Which is a good thing).

I'm only defending those points


Why bring up a strawman and then why defend that strawman?

Only reason strawman arguement is used is to deflect from a valid point.

Why are you deflecting?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74244 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:43 pm to
this whole defending crime statistics, that may or may not juked, is your new favorite subject to argue.
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