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re: Pump the breaks on a National Divorce
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:52 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:52 pm to Indefatigable
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. There is simply no way to do it geographically.
Yes hell there is, it would entail some very hard decisions by some though. I’m willing to sacrifice to live in a country free of the demented arse Left.
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:53 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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So you're against the Democrat Party's push for adding 4 additional seats to the USSC?
My initial reaction is it’s not a good idea, but honestly haven’t given it much thought.
I’d be open to hearing pros and cons as long as it not a violation of the constitution.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:53 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Yes hell there is, it would entail some very hard decisions by some though.
You mean the forced relocation of millions of people? Yea I would say so.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:54 pm to USAFbamaFAN
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Then why not use the greatest system of government and fix itself.
Do you even election integrity bruh?
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:54 pm to tide06
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Could be as easy as allowing people to move within a two year adjustment period with no sales tax or fees being assessed based on your personal preferences, after which you would be forced to renounce citizenship to the other nation.
Yea, that seems incredibly simple.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:54 pm to Indefatigable
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forced relocation of millions of people?
Haven’t you heard? Forcing millions of people to up and relocate is going to go by so smoothly.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:54 pm to redneck hippie
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There will always be fringe beliefs, but shouldn’t drive overall policy
Are you serious?
You voted for the fringe.
Biden offered handouts and free healthcare to illegals in a debate.
Biden said your 2020 riots weren't a big deal and Kamala helped set up a bailout fund for you rioting Democrats.
Biden is flying illegals all across the country and dumping them on taxpayers.
You are the fringe because you voted for it.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:55 pm to redneck hippie
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My initial reaction is it’s not a good idea
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:56 pm to USAFbamaFAN
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Forcing millions of people to up and relocate is going to go by so smoothly.
Yea I mean the other guy laid it out perfectly. We could simply give people sales tax breaks and have tens of millions of people relocating over a two year period. I'm sure that would go smoothly and would not result in armed conflict of any kind.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:58 pm to Indefatigable
I am kind of shocked you like Democrats.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:59 pm to redneck hippie
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My initial reaction is it’s not a good idea, but honestly haven’t given it much thought.
I’d be open to hearing pros and cons as long as it not a violation of the constitution.
Man, I was really ready to give you one of these had you simply said, "Obviously."
Instead, you waffled as if there was any Constitutional argument for it other than hard feelings and general butt hurt for having lost elections and lost USSC justices at bad times.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:59 pm to Indefatigable
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These only occured peacefully because the Czechs and Slovaks (and the Montenegrins/Serbs) were already divided into culturally/racially/linguistically homogenous territories within the former countries. Those boundaries were already in place. We have nothing approaching that.
This is grossly incorrect.
That being said, outside of the Czech Republic, and East Timor, stuff like this is usually quite painful.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:59 pm to Indefatigable
Don’t forget about the power grab that would ensue. There would be several coalitions formed and a race to obtain commodities. Then all of the sudden you will be living in a world with no economic certain, emerging conflicts over territory, and the eradication of anyone deemed to not think like you do.
Damn it’s almost like history repeating itself.
Damn it’s almost like history repeating itself.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:01 pm to Big4SALTbro
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The left side would depend on the right to supply food
and water, and electricity, and heating oil, and diesel, and plastics, and etc, etc etc. They think because they have all of the Ivy league schools and corporate offices that bring in tax dollars they are rich states and the red states are loser states. Once a split would take place, their monetary advantage goes negative. frick them and their pompous ambitions.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:02 pm to Big4SALTbro
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The question is how do you move the poor in each section that have no means to move.
If the red state nation forces them to work through reductions in welfare offerings it would take care of itself.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:03 pm to upgrayedd
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Republicans are just progressives who drive the speed limit.
Democrats run towards the fiscal cliff of socialism. Republicans walk towards it. They’ll both end up at the same place.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:03 pm to USAFbamaFAN
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I identify as republican
Identity politics is part of problem
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:03 pm to Indefatigable
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This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 12:09 am
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:04 pm to USAFbamaFAN
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Don’t forget about the power grab that would ensue. There would be several coalitions formed and a race to obtain commodities. Then all of the sudden you will be living in a world with no economic certain, emerging conflicts over territory, and the eradication of anyone deemed to not think like you do.
Damn it’s almost like history repeating itself.
I've noticed this entire thread you've offered objections to why it should not be attempted, but virtually no solutions for our current situation which has people considering it.
How do you solve our current situation, where diametrically opposed parties each control virtually half of each side of the country? How do you vote yourself into unity from there?
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:04 pm to USAFbamaFAN
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Czech Republic Slovakia Croatia Slovenia Montenegro
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4 of those were a military conflict/war. Czech Republic was a side effect of WWII. Do please keep going at explaining how war is a good thing.
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Do please explain how any of those countries became to be without war.
Well, Czechoslovakia was an outcome of WW1 and peacefully separated into two countries in 1992 through the Velvet Revolution. So I’m not sure where you are coming up with the Czech Republic being a side effect of WW2 or either the Czech Republic or Slovakia separating through war.
Montenegro peacefully separated from Serbia through a referendum.
Slovenia unilaterally voted to separate from Yugoslavia and successfully insulated itself from the conflict that followed between Serbs, Bosnians, Bosnian Serbs, and Croatians.
Croatia was involved in the Yugoslav conflicts but not for the entire duration and not to the degree of the Serbs, Bosnians, Bosnian Serbs, Kosovars, etc.
And regardless, Croatia is much better off now. Ask almost any Croat if he or she would like to return to the state prior to the separation. The answer would be almost unanimously a resounding no.
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