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re: Question for parents with kids in the military
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:19 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:19 pm to cokebottleag
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Can’t watch hurt locker either, because it’s so bad and unrealistic.
I compartmentalize fairly well, and I like war movies about the same as I ever did. But holy crap was that a horrific movie. I’m used to a certain amount of dramatic license, but damn.
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:20 pm to Ag Zwin
i served in the army during wartime, as did my father in law (colonel, two tours in vietnam), my grandfather in the calvary and my son in an army aviation unit.
I do not watch military movies. it's too emotional. war is literally hell.
I do not watch military movies. it's too emotional. war is literally hell.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The way Cyber is going, he will likely be the equivalent of an FDO (Fire Direction Officer) in a line unit. Basically someone who, using network Intel, recommends cyber effect direction to the command.
Damn. I was an Artillery officer and my first job was as an FDO using BCS version 7, the BUCS, and Charts and Darts to compute fire direction data in a line unit.
Basically, I sent the data to my platoon's guns to tell them Deflection, Charge and Quadrant to fire their guns to hit a target miles away.
So you're basically saying the same thing in only more modern terms.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:27 pm to Ag Zwin
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Ag Zwin
Hey, are you the gentleman who has the wonderful son attending West Point?
If so, NOW I understand. Try not to worry right now. Also, make SURE you go to an Army/Navy game while he is there!!
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:39 pm to geaux88
Honestly what really puts me in a weird mood after watching a war movie is seeing the comradarie and knowing that is gone from my life. I was in a small group for the most part and envisioned retiring from the military, unfortunately a 7.62 had other plans. Maybe that is what actually depresses me, not the act of war necessarily but now the lack of. frick if I know
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:48 pm to lake2280
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Honestly what really puts me in a weird mood after watching a war movie is seeing the comradarie and knowing that is gone from my life.
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unfortunately a 7.62 had other plans.
Why is the camaraderie gone from your life? Wanna come to our home and watch the LSU game this weekend? The food and beer is on me, and you can crash here if you want to. I'm sorry to hear that a 7.62 round found you. That sucks, but you are here.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:05 pm to geaux88
My paternal grandfather served in WWII (along with my maternal grandfather).
He swore his sons would never be in the military.
My father left NSU and then La Tech and enlisted to serve (Army) in 'Nam.
He swore that none of his four sons would serve in the military.
I went Navy; my two younger brothers were Army. We have 7 overseas deployments between us.
I recently retired from the Reserve. I am raising 5 sons, and it is my hope that none of them serve in the military.
But I won't stop or discourage them.
I like many war movies, but some, I cannot watch.
"We Were Soldiers" tears me up.
Will not watch "Blackhawk Down" ever again.
Will not watch "13 Hours" ever again.
I think that the service of his sons (and support of a lot of good Americans) helped to heal my Dad's feelings about the Army and 'Nam. At least, a little.
We beat Air Force.
We will Beat Army and Restore Order.
He swore his sons would never be in the military.
My father left NSU and then La Tech and enlisted to serve (Army) in 'Nam.
He swore that none of his four sons would serve in the military.
I went Navy; my two younger brothers were Army. We have 7 overseas deployments between us.
I recently retired from the Reserve. I am raising 5 sons, and it is my hope that none of them serve in the military.
But I won't stop or discourage them.
I like many war movies, but some, I cannot watch.
"We Were Soldiers" tears me up.
Will not watch "Blackhawk Down" ever again.
Will not watch "13 Hours" ever again.
I think that the service of his sons (and support of a lot of good Americans) helped to heal my Dad's feelings about the Army and 'Nam. At least, a little.
We beat Air Force.
We will Beat Army and Restore Order.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 12:20 am to Ag Zwin
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If you can’t understand the difference, you’re a fricking idiot.
You couldn't be fearful until it was happening to you?
Posted on 10/11/19 at 5:07 am to Ag Zwin
My brother was 8 years cyber and doesn’t regret it one bit. Makes over $100k as a civilian contract and still has a pension plan.
Highly recommended.
Highly recommended.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 6:05 am to Ag Zwin
Son in the Army, daughter in the Air Force and high school senior son just enlisted in the Air Force. Son does route clearing/ EOD work and my daughter’s job is real dangerous. She is the in pharmacy at a base of mostly retirees. She has their Viagra refills, don’t screw around with their Viagra refills.
We still love war movies, especially the old John Wayne WWII movies. They look at WWII movies and what their life was like and compare that to what it’s like now. My son that has had to kneel over a hundred pound bomb to decide how to get rid it, is in awe of how brave and tough those guys were.
We still love war movies, especially the old John Wayne WWII movies. They look at WWII movies and what their life was like and compare that to what it’s like now. My son that has had to kneel over a hundred pound bomb to decide how to get rid it, is in awe of how brave and tough those guys were.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:36 am to geaux88
quote:That is indeed my boy. He's settling in, and doing well with the STEM stuff, so I have a certain degree of confidence that he can make the Cyber program if he wants to, but he also talks about his backup being Combat Engineering. Long way to go, so I won't panic just yet.
Hey, are you the gentleman who has the wonderful son attending West Point?
Of course, according to LSUConvert, I'm an unfeeling jerk because I feel a heightened sense of the risks just because my son is facing them. I must be the most insensitive warmonger that ever lived.
As for the Army/Navy game, we will definitely make it one year. Won't be this year, though. Rotation seems to be that Plebe and Firstie years are where parents make the most trips to the campus for events. We also have crew events to make now. TBS, we will probably go next year, and maybe his cow year. He is thinking about doing an exchange semester at Annapolis (where he almost went), then being in the "prisoner exchange" at the Army/Navy game.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 11:13 am
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:47 am to Ag Zwin
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Do you find that you can’t watch war movies or documentaries as easily anymore?
My son is still not service age. He is fascinated by my service and his grandfather's service. He has wanted to be a track head since he could understand what a tank was. He wants to watch every single war movie and documentary that is out there and comes on TV.
I enjoy a well made, semi-historically accurate war movie and I am usually up for a documentary. However, I do try to watch them when he wants to - mainly to point out the "that ain't the way it happens" in the war movies and to fill in the blanks for him on the documentaries.
Sometimes, the "violence" gets to me, especially in a theater but it is more sounds and flashes than what is happening on the screen. Needless to say, he already has his hopes set on going to see Midway in the theater - here is to hoping it is well done and semi-accurate.
If he was currently serving or deployed, I probably would not watch them, well except for the documentaries.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:51 am to Cajun Tigah
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We still love war movies, especially the old John Wayne WWII movies.
I don't think these older "sanitized" movies would bother me. There is a big difference in realism, and it's easier to see those old movies as just telling the story without showing the gore. The ones like "Saving Patric Ryan", though? I now have a better appreciation for the D-Day vets who said this was the first war movie that really got to them and brought the memories back.
It's a fine line. Spielberg and Hanks did a great service to show younger people just how horrific WWII was (and not just a "Greatest Generation" homage), but the other edge of the sword was to bring that horror back to the guys who had managed to keep it in their past.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:53 am to Ag Zwin
You boys are soft 
Posted on 10/11/19 at 11:07 am to Walkthedawg
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You boys are soft
Did you have a kid buzzing around Afghanistan in an A-10?
Posted on 10/11/19 at 11:09 am to Ag Zwin
My son is getting ready to go to Paris Island.
I have a strong feeling war movies will not be viewed much any more.
I have a strong feeling war movies will not be viewed much any more.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 11:11 am to Walkthedawg
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You boys are soft
I'm soft because the idea of my son being in combat is something I don't want to think about?
Posted on 10/11/19 at 11:37 am to Ag Zwin
I mentioned my deceased FIL and him being a Ranger landing on Omaha Beach in D-Day in an earlier post....
My deceased father was in the Infantry during WW2 fighting in Italy when he was captured by the Nazis. He was held as a POW in Stalag 7A in Moosburg, Germany for 12 months before being liberated by Patton’s Army. He did not talk about it until right before he died.
He could not watch war movies/ shows with us and he always said they made the Nazis look dumb. He said they were intelligent and fierce fighters. One show that really infuriated him was Hogan’s Heroes.... that it made it look like the POWs didn’t have it bad.
He also hated German Shepard dogs because the SS troops would sic them on them all the time. He was bitten several times. My dad suffered with PTSD and his being malnourished while a POW caused him health problems. He did manage to live a happy life and had a successful career.
My deceased father was in the Infantry during WW2 fighting in Italy when he was captured by the Nazis. He was held as a POW in Stalag 7A in Moosburg, Germany for 12 months before being liberated by Patton’s Army. He did not talk about it until right before he died.
He could not watch war movies/ shows with us and he always said they made the Nazis look dumb. He said they were intelligent and fierce fighters. One show that really infuriated him was Hogan’s Heroes.... that it made it look like the POWs didn’t have it bad.
He also hated German Shepard dogs because the SS troops would sic them on them all the time. He was bitten several times. My dad suffered with PTSD and his being malnourished while a POW caused him health problems. He did manage to live a happy life and had a successful career.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 12:07 pm to OchoDedos
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Did you have a kid buzzing around Afghanistan in an A-10?
You all completely miss the point. You should be thinking about other people's kids the entire time you watch these movies if it's a problem. You're soft because you only think about this shite when it happens to you.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 1:27 pm to Ag Zwin
They don't have so much appeal as they once did. I mostly like older films anyway and many older war films often sanitize war.
When my sons were deployed and in combat I could hardly listen to the news on TV or radio fearing I'd catch some headline like Five Marines killed and Nine wounded in combat operations...etc.
War films were out of the question.
When my sons were deployed and in combat I could hardly listen to the news on TV or radio fearing I'd catch some headline like Five Marines killed and Nine wounded in combat operations...etc.
War films were out of the question.
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