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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:28 am to
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:28 am to
It’s interesting that the giants were so advanced as to create sewing needles but y’all still call them dinosaurs
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:31 am to
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It’s interesting that the giants were so advanced as to create sewing needles but y’all still call them dinosaurs



wtf are you blabbering about?

really interested to hear your thoughts on shale oil and gas
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:33 am to
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earth just produces this stuff

Yes - during a few billion years of uninhabited climate where the entire earth was covered in huge plant life.

There will never be another epoch anywhere close to that - so yes - we can run out of 'thisvstuff.' - it is not inexhaustible.

How close we are to that I'll leave up to the experts in the field - but to say it is 'inexhaustible' is as idiotic as anything the climate change nuts say.

Nuclear is the salvation - so it is not a critical element in our planning for anything close to the near future.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:35 am to
They have methane vents on the ocean floor but nobody acts like those are fossil fuels. Why is it so unbelievable that the earths core would leak oil
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:38 am to
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Yes - during a few billion years of uninhabited climate where the entire earth was covered in huge plant life.

There will never be another epoch anywhere close to that - so yes - we can run out of 'thisvstuff.' - it is not inexhaustible.

How close we are to that I'll leave up to the experts in the field - but to say it is 'inexhaustible' is as idiotic as anything the climate change nuts say.

Nuclear is the salvation - so it is not a critical element in our planning for anything close to the near future.


The US has engineered a new way to extract oil previously uneconomic due to conventional oil reservoirs. Well those conventional oil reserves are depleted and we had to find a new way to get oil out of the ground. Pioneered by George Mitchell, we targeted the rock where the oil originates from, shale, which is incredibly impermeable and oil would not flow from this rock at commercial quantities without structurally fracturing the rock, so we drill horizontally, some wells multiple miles, and pump sand and water into the shale to "frac" it and induce oil production from the source rock.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:40 am to
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Well, that plus we need about ten times the power grid to run AI.


AI consumes a lot of power but we don't need to increase the capacity of the grid 10 fold

Unless I'm reading your statement incorrectly
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:41 am to
When the oil company says they are “running out” of oil it means they don’t want to spend more money going deeper or don’t want to procure more little boys for some warlord in a terrorist country
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:41 am to
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In reality the earth just produces this stuff and we’ll never run out
Never heard that but it was never my line of study. Well, it would have been but I didn't do well with my first several Engineering classes.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:43 am to
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Why is it so unbelievable that the earths core would leak oil


Pressure and Temperature

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The temperature of oil in the ground varies widely, but typically ranges from around (140-248) °F ((60-120) °C), with some reservoirs reaching over (300) °F (150) °C


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Temperature in the inner core is about 5,200° Celsius (9,392° Fahrenheit). The pressure is nearly 3.6 million atmospheres (atm).



Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:45 am to
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When the oil company says they are “running out” of oil it means they don’t want to spend more money going deeper


Do you understand there is a geothermal gradient and a depth which it becomes too hot for oil to exist? You are correct in regards to the financial part, they need to lease more land in shale basins and frac it
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 10:46 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:47 am to
Yeah the oil cools down when it gets further away from the core
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:47 am to
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Sadly, not before they all but completely decimated the entire global auto industry.


Almost as if global warming was designed as an economic and psychological weapon to destabilize the west.

Add a weaponized virus to the above mix and you got Covid stew.
Posted by jizzle6609
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:48 am to
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Biggest hoax in global history.


Marijuana oil climate change


The list is long and distinguished.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:48 am to
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Yeah the oil cools down when it gets further away from the core



Yep, that would be a retrograde condensate, which is not the same as crude oil

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Condensate is a very light liquid petroleum that condenses from a gaseous state when brought to the surface, while crude oil is a liquid petroleum found in underground reservoirs.






This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 10:55 am
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:56 am to
I think I sat next to the gaucho in Geology 1113 and he was always craning to see my paper during exams.

He knew I was a geology major (most of the kids who took that class were not) and well, you know science is just so hard!
Posted by Sassafrasology
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:57 am to
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Look up the abiotic oil theory to learn more


el Gaucho is right about this.

There are 7 planets in our solar system besides earth that contain abundant to trace amounts of hydrocarbons and there are at least 13 moons of our solar system planets that contain abundant and trace amounts of hydrocarbons.

In fact there are several well documented and non biological processes that can produce hydrocarbons from inorganics and they are currently used by industry. No reason geologic conditions cannot replicate theses chemical processes under the proper conditions.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by Wildcat1996
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:00 am to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:05 am to
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el Gaucho is right about this.

There are 7 planets in our solar system besides earth that contain abundant to trace amounts of hydrocarbons and there are at least 13 moons of our solar system planets that contain abundant and trace amounts of hydrocarbons.

In fact there are several well documented and non biological processes that can produce hydrocarbons from inorganics and they are currently used by industry. No reason geologic conditions cannot replicate theses chemical processes under the proper conditions.


sure, hydrogen and carbon are elements that exist abundantly all over the universe. but that is not how shale oil was formed here on Earth

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Shale oil was formed from the remains of ancient organic matter, such as algae and plants, which were deposited in sedimentary environments like lakes and seas. Over millions of years, these organic materials were buried under layers of sediment, subjecting them to heat and pressure that transformed them into a solid, waxy substance called kerogen within the sedimentary rock. Because it did not experience enough heat and pressure to fully convert into liquid crude oil, the kerogen remains trapped in the rock and must be heated to release the oil.


This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 11:13 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:39 pm to
If shale oil was made out of dinosaurs how would the dinosaur get into the rock to make the oil
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:47 pm to
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If shale oil was made out of dinosaurs how would the dinosaur get into the rock to make the oil





if youve been trolling me this whole time, well played sir
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