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re: Remember Donald Trump-touted hydroxychloroquine? Study in India backs it as CURE
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:41 am to cajuncarguy
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:41 am to cajuncarguy
I remember the head of cardiovascular surgery at Baylor, and another doc of similar stature at A&M writing letters advocating it be used vs COVID. Countless others, too.
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:43 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
Cavuto and others that were in on the cover up should be indicted for conspiracy right along with that killer runt Fauci. Crimes against humanity and mass murder.
A bullets too good for them. Hang them.
A bullets too good for them. Hang them.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:52 am to Jjdoc
So let's see. Trump was right about the lab leak origin and was told he was crazy. Was made into a crazy person for suggesting hydroxychloroquine. So whenever the media decides it's ok to admit the election was fixed, I suppose that will eventually be ok to say also.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:52 am to Jjdoc
Trump was right.
Trump won.
Bigly !
Trump won.
Bigly !
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:52 am to tigerskin
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Yeah, India seems to be doing really well
Notice after all the hysteria a few weeks ago that India COVID has disappeared from the news? Wanna know why? They're already down almost 70% from their peak, while running almost 4m tests a day. Their positivity rate has dropped well below 5% on any given day, sometimes lower.
Sooner y'all figure out that COVID follows the same pattern everywhere it goes, the better off and happier you'll be.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:59 am to Jjdoc
Is the maker of HCQ the company that the Trump family owns 10s of 10s shares of stock?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:02 am to landmanner
When it comes through a single large randomized controlled trial, I’ll believe it’s a viable treatment.
So many bullshite “cures” touted these days are based on observational studies, and not very good ones at that. It’s natural to be skeptical.
The appeal of hydroxychloeoquine was that it was already FDA approved and was cheap. But it turns out that it doesn’t actually improve outcomes, at least not based on the information we have right now. Some observational studies last year suggested that it could improve outcomes of particularly sick people. And we were desperate for any promising news in June/July of last year.
So many bullshite “cures” touted these days are based on observational studies, and not very good ones at that. It’s natural to be skeptical.
The appeal of hydroxychloeoquine was that it was already FDA approved and was cheap. But it turns out that it doesn’t actually improve outcomes, at least not based on the information we have right now. Some observational studies last year suggested that it could improve outcomes of particularly sick people. And we were desperate for any promising news in June/July of last year.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:02 am to AUMIS01
Yeah, the pattern is once enough people get vaccinated (in addition to those previously infected) the numbers plummet
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:07 am to tigerskin
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Yeah, the pattern is once enough people get vaccinated (in addition to those previously infected) the numbers plummet
Can’t speak for the safety of the vaccines made available in the US, but they are effective against Covid. In late December, the infection rate in the nursing homes where these vaccines were administered first dropped like a stone. Then rates starting dropping quickly in age groups that were allowed to get it every week.
The Trump administration did everything they could to speed up the emergency authorization approval process for those drug makers. That was a major contributing factor to our country improving so rapidly while many of our peers struggled.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:10 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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I remember the head of cardiovascular surgery at Baylor, and another doc of similar stature at A&M writing letters advocating it be used vs COVID. Countless others, too.
Some were relying on information they had at the time, which were a series of small observational studies. No randomized controlled trial.
That happens when we are facing a crisis and we grasp at anything that looks promising. It’s a natural part of the process.
What wasn’t natural was the constant drumbeat of the media attempting to “debunk” everything suggested by Trump. He may not have been correct about Hydroxychloroquine, but he was spot fricking on about the origins of the virus. Our media dismissed and ignored a credible hypothesis because Trump mentioned it.
When he is in his lane, the man is right way more than he’s wrong. He was out of his lane with hydroxychloroquine or most of his personal hygiene tips around the virus. But many credible medical professionals were suggesting the same thing at the time. They were all wrong unfortunately.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:16 am to landmanner
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Is the maker of HCQ the company that the Trump family owns 10s of 10s shares of stock?
Lol. I think you’re being sarcastic. But at least a half-dozen drug companies manufacture versions of hydroxychloroquine.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:17 am to tigerskin
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Yeah, the pattern is once enough people get vaccinated (in addition to those previously infected) the numbers plummet
I hear you, but India didn't suddenly vaccinate a couple hundred million people overnight. The actual pattern is a massive runup surrounded by a media blitz, and nearly as quickly as it escalated, there is an immediate downturn that is almost but not quite a violent as the runup.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
......but but but how would all those pharmaceuticals (including Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci) make all that money if hydroxychloroquine was proven to be an effective treatment for the Kung Flu? You know the same pharmaceuticals that pump all them campaign contributions into the coffers of influential democrat politicians?
Wanna know what I think? Me thinks this govmint doth leak mammon like a broken main water line in NYC.
Wanna know what I think? Me thinks this govmint doth leak mammon like a broken main water line in NYC.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 11:22 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
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Hydroxychloroquine, the malaria drug touted as a magical Covid-19 cure by former US President Donald Trump last year, has been found effective in a prophylactic study published in the Journal of The Association of Physicians of India (JAPI) last week.
Dude, you need to change the title of the thread. This study means HCQ is NOT a cure (other studies show that it is), but it prevents a person from getting COVID. It is better than the "vaccine", which only prevents severe symptoms but it allows you to get COVID.
My wife and I have been taking HCQ since November.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:21 am to Tigers0891
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Noooo he Said InjECt BlEAcH iN ur VeinZ
Celtic dog still believes this.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:21 am to AUMIS01
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I hear you, but India didn't suddenly vaccinate a couple hundred million people overnight.
Vaccines aren’t the only way to achieve herd immunity. India is going through a particularly difficult alternative judging from their infection rates a month or two ago. A lot of people in their massive urban centers got infected.
They were (and are) vaccinating people like crazy. Pretty impressive actually.
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The actual pattern is a massive runup surrounded by a media blitz, and nearly as quickly as it escalated, there is an immediate downturn that is almost but not quite a violent as the runup.
They media picked up on it a few weeks after it was on fire. By the time they were repackaging the information to fit their narrative and spreading their brand of hysteria, India was already showing improvements.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:23 am to LakeCharles
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Hydroxychloroquine, the malaria drug touted as a magical Covid-19 cure by former US President Donald Trump last year
Not sure why I didn’t catch the bullshite first sentence. But the author of the article showed their colors with this.
Sharing a hypothesis suggested by multiple credible experts is not the same as “touting a magical cure”. Yes those medical experts were wrong. And by extension so was Trump. But let’s not pretend this idea just came to Trump in a dream or something. It was a credible hypothesis at a time when we all desperately wanted a cure or at least a treatment.
Just like the lab origin hypothesis.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:43 am to AUMIS01
quote:Rates are coming down because they went into full lockdown. They are just now thinking of lifting the restrictions.
Notice after all the hysteria a few weeks ago that India COVID has disappeared from the news? Wanna know why? They're already down almost 70% from their peak, while running almost 4m tests a day. Their positivity rate has dropped well below 5% on any given day, sometimes lower.
Sooner y'all figure out that COVID follows the same pattern everywhere it goes, the better off and happier you'll be.
Also, they are pushing the vaccines now, not HCQ.
So yes, understanding patterns is important. But in your case ignorance is bliss.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:47 am to Jjdoc
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Study in India backs it as CURE
You'll never see it here again... If its a cure, the government cant make money on it much like cancer research and the common cold
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:49 am to Jjdoc
Its no cure, not close. But until mABs came available, we should have been using it heavily.
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