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re: Remember the Fake Security Guard that Murdered the Guy in Denver?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:51 am to the808bass
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:51 am to the808bass
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You’re just making up new ideas as a justification for murder. Can I shoot anyone who’s “escalating?” Can I strap a gun and hang out with my friends “protecting” then and then shoot anyone who approaches them?
not to mention the deceased slapped the shooter, then backed away from him
how is shooter afraid for his life with bear spray guy backing away? all shooter had to do was draw and back away himself. shooter stood his ground and fired
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:52 am to Milesahead
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What I "understand" from reading this thread is a man attacked a few people, one with a gun, and was subsequently shot. I assume the gun was present when he was maced. If so, I am ok with the gun being used.
This is incorrect, front to back. Stop posting.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:53 am to the808bass
Security guard status is immaterial to me. It is as simple as this to me:
If a gun is known to be present, any physical engagement can expect to be met with lethal force.
If the guy didn't make the gun known, I say he shot too fast. If Mr Mace knew he had a gun and he still attacked, I am ok with the shooting. I can't change the rules because of presumed political party.
If a gun is known to be present, any physical engagement can expect to be met with lethal force.
If the guy didn't make the gun known, I say he shot too fast. If Mr Mace knew he had a gun and he still attacked, I am ok with the shooting. I can't change the rules because of presumed political party.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:54 am to Milesahead
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If the guy didn't make the gun known, I say he shot too fast.
He did not make the gun known.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:54 am to the808bass
You are too deep into your feelings.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:56 am to the808bass
I’m mean if shoot the protesters is the rule of the game, let’s set the board and play this thing out.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:56 am to Milesahead
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:58 am to Milesahead
quote:And I think you illustrated the problem with the stand your ground laws which only allow things to escalate. In a state with a duty to retreat, the security guard could pull the gun but has to use any available means to retreat before he pulls the trigger. The pepper spray complicates things a bit because it could incapacitate him before he can get out of its reach.
You illustrate the challenges provided by us carrying guns. If the "security guard" had his gun out, it was stupid to attack him with something of lesser impact.
I am for people placing a high value on life. People should look first to avoid violence. When he approached and the guy produced a gun, he should have backed away. If he truly thought he was going to be shot regardless, THEN he should have tried to use his gun...but I doubt that was the case here.
If I produce a gun and someone attacks me, I would feel justified in using the gun. If I didn't show the gun but was attacked, I would feel like I had to educate them on that fact prior to shooting them. Once they know I am offering death as a solution, the ball is back in their court.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:58 am to the808bass
I guess this just goes to show us that when you attend an event you know there will be leftists / Antifa / Soy suckers, we need to utilize our 2nd Amendment rights.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:58 am to Milesahead
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You are too deep into your feelings.
how about you watch the video?
this situation was discussed for weeks on here, you just said you arent familiar with this case
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:01 am to the808bass
Then I agree he shouldn't have shot. Easy enough.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:01 am to supatigah
quote:Bear spray guy only took two steps back to draw out the bear spray. He couldn't use it if he was still pushed up against the guy. He was continuing his assault, not being defensive.
how is shooter afraid for his life with bear spray guy backing away? all shooter had to do was draw and back away himself. shooter stood his ground and fired
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:01 am to mmcgrath
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And I think you illustrated the problem with the stand your ground laws which only allow things to escalate. In a state with a duty to retreat, the security guard could pull the gun but has to use any available means to retreat before he pulls the trigger. The pepper spray complicates things a bit because it could incapacitate him before he can get out of its reach.
after the slap, keltner backed away, keltner disengaged first
dollof had ample space to get himself and his client out of harm’s way, he did not and fired instead
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:02 am to supatigah
That video shows black bubblebutt provoking, provoking, provoking to get the temper sky high. He worked the BLM/Antifa agitator role 100%. He walked away celebrating.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:03 am to supatigah
I am not saying this condescendingly, as often times I do have ample time to surf this site, but in this case, I haven't had time to keep up with the topics here. Based off of 1st page banter, I responded. I have not seen the video or read any other threads or reports.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:06 am to mmcgrath
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Bear spray guy only took two steps back to draw out the bear spray. He couldn't use it if he was still pushed up against the guy. He was continuing his assault, not being defensive.
wow, he was continuing assault while taking two steps back? the same two steps that gave dollof the path to disengage and get away WITH HIS CLIENT.
it is one thing to be an ideologue, but it is quite another to be a shill
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:08 am to Milesahead
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You are too deep into your feelings.
Noting that you don’t even know the fact pattern that you’re discussing is the opposite of being “deep into my feelings.”
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:09 am to Aquila
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9News colluded with the murderer to instigate an event so they could film it and report about "right wing violence".
Yes, 9News is a leftist station and a participant of the event. And IIRC, there was a number of slants to their benefit in the linked video.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:09 am to Aquila
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this is the part that gets buried by the "news". 9News colluded with the murderer to instigate an event so they could film it and report about "right wing violence".
I wonder if they targeted someone who came armed.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:13 am to mmcgrath
this isnt as bad as popping an unarmed veteran for tugging on a locked door, then getting blown on national television for it. So there's that....
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