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Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:01 pm to the808bass
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It’s a staged awesome photo.
absolutely.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:02 pm to the808bass
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Do you think the GOPE is definable
sure
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and has a given shape
Are you on the spectrum?
This is the central point of contention. Let's not argue about who is right or wrong. But, can we agree that Desantis doesn't see the GOPe as a serious threat/problem? Or, even further, that he doesn't think the GOPe is an actual meaningful descriptor or anything?
Furthermore, can we agree that Desantis supporters believe that is Desantis' position and and agree with him?
On the other hand, can we agree that Trump does see the GOPe as a significant threat/problem?
Furthermore, can we agree that Trump supporters believe that is Trump's positino and agree with him?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:03 pm to moneyg
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Do other Desantis supporters agree with this regarding Desantis...and agree personally?
I don’t know or care. Which i suppose is indicative of the fundamental difference between you and I.
I don’t need or rely upon the opinions of others to justify my beliefs.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:04 pm to Indefatigable
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You’re assuming facts not in evidence. I’d prefer DeSantis to Trump on the grounds of electability if the primary were decided today by my personal fiat, but I’m certainly not never Trump.
ok. Never said you were. Don't really care.
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I’ve voted for him twice and I’ll do it again in the very likely event that he’s the nominee.
ok.
None of that was the point. I think you've boiled down the differences between the two factions and why they aren't compatible (in large part)
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:04 pm to moneyg
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On the other hand, can we agree that Trump does see the GOPe as a significant threat/problem?
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Then why are you voting for the guy who quite literally has the GOPe running his campaign?
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:05 pm to moneyg
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None of that was the point. I think you've boiled down the differences between the two factions and why they aren't compatible (in large part)
Define GOPe.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:05 pm to Indefatigable
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False dichotomy
We are talking about a photo. Feel free to be as specific as you need to be to describe your position.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:05 pm to Indefatigable
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Define GOPe.
Trump's campaign managers.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:05 pm to moneyg
You just tried to bloviate your way past my question. You failed.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:07 pm to moneyg
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We are talking about a photo.
No we aren’t. We are talking about the choices you presented separated by the word “or”.
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Feel free to be as specific as you need to be to describe your position.
It was a hilarious troll that I send to every group text I’m in every May 5th.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:08 pm to moneyg
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We are talking about a photo.
I’m starting to suspect you ain’t bright.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:08 pm to Indefatigable
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No we aren’t. We are talking about the choices you presented separated by the word “or”.
It's pretty interesting that he isn't able to stand by the things that he says.
Like that and not being able to vote for someone with GOPe ties.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:15 pm to pankReb
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Why do you keep ignoring me?
I've posted more in this thread than probably anyone and in response to multiple people.
To answer your question, I'm voting for the guy whose election will lead to the reduction of power to the GOPe.
Your point about him hiring someone to run his campaign doesn't matter to me. It's certainly possible for people to good at what they do and to have worked with the GOPe in the past. Likewise, Desantis has people who worked for Trump on his campaign...some very good people.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:17 pm to moneyg
Why won’t you define GOPe?
If you already have let me know what page.
If you already have let me know what page.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:18 pm to Indefatigable
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Define GOPe.
Perhaps the most common answers to that amongst the peoples would be in the form of other equally ambiguous concepts:
GOPe
‘Jee-oh-pee-ee’
Noun
The deep state; the establishment
Adjective
Of or relating to the characteristics of deep state bandits; the state of being a self-serving political sleezebag.
**Hope that helps. It might hold us over til tomorrow anyway.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:18 pm to moneyg
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Your point about him hiring someone to run his campaign doesn't matter to me.
Fully aware. It goes back to the hypocrisy pointed out several times today.
I just want to keep hearing you say that you don't care about the fact that Trump has surrounded himself with and promoted GOPe throughout his time in politics.....and in the same breath about how evil the GOPe is.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:22 pm to pankReb
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the fact that Trump has surrounded himself with and promoted GOPe throughout his time in politics
So he and Desantis are the same. Yet somehow Desantis is a lock to win and will save the world but Trump wont do anything
Hypocrites all over
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