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re: Ross Perot
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:34 pm to JackieTreehorn
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:34 pm to JackieTreehorn
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He was 100% right about most everything especially NAFTA.
This. It’s almost if Perot had seen the future. He was right about almost everything.
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:37 pm to Cleathecat
quote:That son of a bitch gave us Bill Clinton. He knew he couldn't win. It was a personal vendetta against the Bush family.
I'm curious what kind of President this board thinks he would have been.
All he did was siphon votes off of Bush. Clinton is when this country started into the nose dive.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:47 pm to Wipe Out
Bush or Clinton would not have made a difference. See Bush with CIA.
If we knew then what we know now.
If we knew then what we know now.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:54 pm to THog
quote:
Bush or Clinton would not have made a difference. See Bush with CIA.
If we knew then what we know now.
Without Ross Perot Bill Clinton is a former Arkansas governor and we don't even know Hillary's name.
Perot put the Clintons in the White House. At the time Clinton was elected with a lower percentage of votes than any previous president. Perot split the conservative vote.
I tried telling everyone. A vote for Perot is a vote for Clinton.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:06 pm to Cleathecat
Fun fact:
After the 92 debates, the FEC (Fed election committee) got together and decided that there would never be a third party candidate on stage.
Republicans and Democrats obv agreed.
Now, the bar is so high and criteria so cumbersome, it’s nearly impossible to get a third party candidate on stage to debate.
After the 92 debates, the FEC (Fed election committee) got together and decided that there would never be a third party candidate on stage.
Republicans and Democrats obv agreed.
Now, the bar is so high and criteria so cumbersome, it’s nearly impossible to get a third party candidate on stage to debate.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:33 pm to Wipe Out
quote:
That son of a bitch gave us Bill Clinton. He knew he couldn't win. It was a personal vendetta against the Bush family.
All he did was siphon votes off of Bush. Clinton is when this country started into the nose dive.
Meh. So you're saying that he flipped the coin to the other side of the Uniparty? OK.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:47 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Meh. So you're saying that he flipped the coin to the other side of the Uniparty? OK.
Without Ross Perot Bill Clinton is a former Arkansas governor and we don't even know Hillary's name.
Perot put the Clintons in the White House.
Perot split the conservative vote. He did not draw a single vote off the Democrats.
Every single person I know that voted for Perot, and I know a bunch, would have voted for Bush had Perot not been in the race.
I tried to tell their stupid asses.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:50 pm to BuckyCheese
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This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:52 pm to Cleathecat
I have serious reservations about Perot
I am convinced he was in the race just to elect Bill Clinton. All you have to do is see how he campaigned. While it was close, he was in there with all fours - then when Clinton got the definite edge, he popped back in.
I still think he was the key player in getting his Arkansas bud elected - and that was the beginning of what we are seeing today.
However bad GHWB may have been - we would have been in a far far greater position today had he won in '92.
thanx Perot
I am convinced he was in the race just to elect Bill Clinton. All you have to do is see how he campaigned. While it was close, he was in there with all fours - then when Clinton got the definite edge, he popped back in.
I still think he was the key player in getting his Arkansas bud elected - and that was the beginning of what we are seeing today.
However bad GHWB may have been - we would have been in a far far greater position today had he won in '92.
thanx Perot
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:16 pm to Wipe Out
quote:
Wipe Out
You didn’t answer my question.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:19 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
I have serious reservations about Perot I am convinced he was in the race just to elect Bill Clinton.
quote:
ChineseBandit58
You’re the same person who was seriously considering HRC in 2016, so you’ll forgive me if I think your opinion is shite.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:23 pm to Cleathecat
Perot had the right ideas and message he just didn’t have the brass balls to take on the DC Swamp….he was almost Trump before Trump. I knew he was losing his grip when he dropped out of the race for President stating his daughter’s wedding was going to be sabotaged….lol!
From the LA Times 1992….
From the LA Times 1992….
quote:
Perot Charges Plot Forced Him Out; ‘Loony,’ GOP Says : Campaign: He accuses Bush camp of plan to smear daughter and disrupt her wedding, and says he quit race to protect her. Texan offers no proof for allegations.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:35 pm to TigerIron
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The media and the bureaucracy would have tried to do to him what they did to Trump. I think they would have had a harder time, though, because Perot was a different type of billionaire-- he was good at numbers and at management and at details. He could have had a decent chance of actually turning things around. But I also think that there is a decent chance he would have been "assassinated."
Remember Fox and MSNBC didn't exist back then and CNN was an entirely different species from what it is now. Also big tech and social media didn't exist either. This was all before the Telecommunications Act of 1996 so ownership of the media was much, much, much, more spread out than it is now and coordinating a media poltical hit job would have been more difficult to achieve. Plus people weren't as gullible and stupid back then as they are now. (I didn't say they weren't gullible and stupid back then. I said they weren't AS gullible and stupid back then.)
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:41 pm to Cleathecat
Would’ve been just what we needed then and now.
Great American.
Great American.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:53 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:There is no question.
You didn’t answer my question.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:05 pm to DesScorp
That gas tax seemed nuts at the time but if I remember correctly it supposedly would have balanced the deficit in like 10-15 years.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:14 pm to Cleathecat
In a perfect world we get 8 years of Perot in the 90s followed by 8 years of Ron Paul in early 2000s
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:20 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
You’re the same person who was seriously considering HRC in 2016
You have me mistaken with someone else - There has never been a hint of anything but disgust for that vile human in my entire life.
quote:
forgive me if I think your opinion is shite.
no need for me to do anything - I don't give a shite what you think.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:49 am to Indefatigable
He gave us Bill and Hillary Clinton. He should have gone the Trump route and taken over the Republican party.
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