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re: Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God--WSJ--Eric Metaxas
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:16 pm to Loveland Tiger
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:16 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:The stupidity of your "thought experiment" relative to the OP begins and ends with your singular focus on the Bible.
At what point would we start copying and pasting from the bible? Never? Way down the process, for sure.
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:17 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
intelligent design.
If you would call it "engineer," without the magic, I'd live with that.
I grew up in a baptist church. I heard that crap for years growing up. "Evolution is just a theory..." they taught us in sunday school. What a lie that was. It's all a lie.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:18 pm to Loveland Tiger
Oh, and then who created the "engineer?"
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:20 pm to Loveland Tiger
Ahhh. Childhood issues. Good good. We are getting to the root of your anger.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:20 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:
I could link dozens of the best minds on the planet explain it to you, but it wouldn't matter. You'd already have studied them. You decide to get your science from Kirk Cameron. He makes your argument. Good luck with that,
How does that logic work? and where do you get that?
Not even the ancient Pagans believed everything everything came to be from pure happenstance.
The history of man has always included a belief in a higher being because it is absolutely impossible to understand the complexity of the universe.
Of course your posts today prove you are smarter than all the men to have ever walked the Earth that have believed in a God.---not.
Now as more scientist open the door to intelligent design does the political strategy of painting Christians as dumb science deniers hold water??
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:21 pm to Loveland Tiger
You know, it is OK to simply admit you don't know who/what/how the universe was created. The hubris involved in passionately arguing a particular stance on something as massive as the creation of the universe always makes me chuckle.
It's totally OK to say "I don't know. None of us actually know."
It's totally OK to say "I don't know. None of us actually know."
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:23 pm to boosiebadazz
Lets follow the evidence, ok?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:25 pm to I B Freeman
Lets keep this freindly. You make the argument for your god, I assume. I counter with the argument against your god. I can't help it if you feel stupid.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:25 pm to boosiebadazz
I for one believe that Odin is the one true god.
prove me that I am wrong.
I'll wait here.
prove me that I am wrong.
I'll wait here.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:26 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:Of course they did.
who created the "engineer?"
quote:
Ivor The Engine Driver
My name is Ivor
I'm an engine driver
I know him well
I know why you feel blue
Just 'cause he's late
Don't mean he'll never get through
He told me he loves you
He ain't no liar, I ain't either
So let's have a smile for an old engine driver
So let's have a smile for an old engine driver
Please take a sweet
Come take a walk with me
We'll sort it out
Back at my place, maybe
It'll come right
You ain't no fool, I ain't either
So why not be nice to an old engine driver?
Better be nice to an old engine driver
Better be nice to an old engine driver
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:26 pm to Loveland Tiger
Even the science version of things doesn't have all the answers. The question is just way too massive for us to ascertain at this point.
I don't mind discussing it, but I always smile when people argue one side passionately.
The truth is we're a long way from having a comprehensive answer to the question, so let's stop pretending like we totally have it 100% all figured out.
I don't mind discussing it, but I always smile when people argue one side passionately.
The truth is we're a long way from having a comprehensive answer to the question, so let's stop pretending like we totally have it 100% all figured out.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:28 pm to asurob1
I'm not arguing for either theory. I'm just saying that the certainty and arrogance with which some people argue their favored position is laughable considering the actual state of our knowledge about the origins of the universe.Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:28 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:
For the evolution deniers on this board I doubt this is the case, but I'd say the fossil record contains the clearest evidence of such changes.
I would agree fossil records might give rise to a theory but they absolutely do not prove evolution beyond the species level let along the higher genus level.
I am not a evolution denier. I see it in my business. But I have never seen nor have you proof one organism evolved into something totally different. Humans have evolved a lot but there is no proof that we arose from apes.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:29 pm to Loveland Tiger
Yet you have not countered with any arguments. Just bootstraps. That won't make anyone feel stupid. It just makes you look petty and uneducated.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:29 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
You know, it is OK to simply admit you don't know who/what/how the universe was created. The hubris involved in passionately arguing a particular stance on something as massive as the creation of the universe always makes me chuckle.
It's totally OK to say "I don't know. None of us actually know."
This is exactly right.
It is the point of the article in the OP.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:30 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:Sweet. No one wants to "feel stupid".
Lets keep this freindly. You make the argument for your god, I assume. I counter with the argument against your god. I can't help it if you feel stupid.
The Universe is about 13.8 Bn yrs old. How old is matter?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:30 pm to asurob1
Haha. Yep no logical fallacy in your "arguments". I mean I said..try to make an argument without a bootstrap or a fallacy...you respond with a fallacy. Beautiful.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:30 pm to boosiebadazz
They've figured out a lot more than you give credit.
Your answer is to quit looking? We can see so far into the universe that the light takes millions of years to reach us. There's no kingdom out there.
Start with a few lectures on YouTube, Leonard suskind for example. We know A LOT. A lot more than we knew 100 years ago. Imagine the next 100 years what we'll learn.
Your answer is to quit looking? We can see so far into the universe that the light takes millions of years to reach us. There's no kingdom out there.
Start with a few lectures on YouTube, Leonard suskind for example. We know A LOT. A lot more than we knew 100 years ago. Imagine the next 100 years what we'll learn.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:31 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:This! In Spades!
but I always smile when people argue one side passionately.
The truth is we're a long way from having a comprehensive answer to the question
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:32 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
Humans have evolved a lot but there is no proof that we arose from apes.
Everything came from common ancestor. We had the same ancestor as the ape. Just different branches.
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