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re: Science is debunking itself again

Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:28 pm to
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To your comment about jibe with Christianity, goo to man theory doesn't mesh with Christianity. God created man. God didn't mention He created the conditions for life, He created man in His image. Dust to man.

Your book tells you that it took God time to create the world, and yet it also says God is beyond time. Which is it, is God bound by time or beyond it? Personally, I believe God is beyond space-time, and therefore doesn’t need to do all the things that beings bound by time and space must do - namely planning, designing, or even thinking. Those things all imply a time element that doesn’t apply to God.

God can only be everywhere at the same time if God is beyond space-time.

Again, use the Book for spiritual and moral guidance, not scientific inquiry.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27174 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Something like evolution can never be "proven" in the sense you are referring. It can be demonstrated to be fact, since all available evidence across every single different way we look for it corresponds with evolution being a fact.


This can't really be discussed without defining what we mean by "evolution". Descent with modification based on (presumably) random mutations is a fact, but that's far different than saying it's a sufficient explanation. Explanatory power can't be extrapolated to infinity.

This is what the global warming folks do.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Terrible logic. One could reasonably argue that the vast majority have been disproven, and even "settled science" is no longer settled.

I’m okay with that. Besides, I don’t believe in “settled science “.
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I've never known a hot dog-eating contest winner. Must mean that it's all faked.

Terrible logic. Not knowing one doesn’t mean it MUST be faked, but that it COULD be faked.

I don’t know a hot dog eating contest winner, therefore it may all be fake.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86799 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:53 pm to
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The natural selection atheists crowd
You realize there are millions of believers in God who realize evolution is fact, right?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:01 pm to
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You realize there are millions of believers in God who realize evolution is fact, right?



Absolutely!

It's just a question of who is causing it.

Nobody or somebody.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3495 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Which God?


I think he’s talking about the god who got his arse kicked by the god of Moab in 2 Kings 3:27. Same god that was defeated by the Canaanites because he couldn’t defeat their iron chariots in Judges 1:19.

Yahweh / Adonai / Kyrios / the LORD
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:12 pm to
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Much, much worse logic.
I was aiming for "identically bad." Yours however... wait, were you referring to your own post? In that case, that's quite the paradox!
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:14 pm to
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I think he’s talking about the god who got his arse kicked by the god of Moab in 2 Kings 3:27. Same god that was defeated by the Canaanites because he couldn’t defeat their iron chariots in Judges 1:19.

Yahweh / Adonai / Kyrios / the LORD
Makes you feel so empowered to talk this way. Let's see how empowered you feel a few years from now after your boyfriend goes too far with your choking fetish and you get to see Him face-to-face.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3495 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:21 pm to
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we didnt come from apes. You are right. We did not.


We are human, great apes, old world monkeys, simians, primates, mammals, chordates, animals, and eukaryotes all at the same time. It’s crazy!
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Let's see how empowered you feel a few years from now after your boyfriend goes too far with your choking fetish and you get to see Him face-to-face.


Very Christian of you.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1359 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:29 pm to
Evolution is the truth!

ERVs PROVE evolution. Case closed!

Winner: Science.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:30 pm to
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Very Christian of you.
I think this retort only works in midwit atheist fantasies.
Posted by GeauxldenGuy
Frierson
Member since Jan 2016
415 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:32 pm to
“And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.” = The Big Bang
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:34 pm to
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midwit


Whoever taught you this word needs slapped.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:35 pm to
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after your boyfriend goes too far with your choking fetish

Just remember, you're the one with this imagery in your head, not Squirrelmeister. It says more about you than him.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86799 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:41 pm to
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Absolutely!

It's just a question of who is causing it.

Nobody or somebody.
Or, who set it in motion.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26677 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Terrible logic. One could reasonably argue that the vast majority have been disproven, and even "settled science" is no longer settled.


There is no such a thing as settled science. Science can NEVER be settled. Idiots can consider some science belief settled but that is not how science works.

Any fact or belief that someone thinks is settled can be overturned by one instance of found that disproves it.

For example 3X2=6 10x2=20. Both are example of proof that any number times 2 is double the original amount.
Settle right. No, all it takes is one instance of this not being true. And lo and behold 0x2 does not double the original number. Nothing is ever settled.

Pure science is the pursuit of knowledge. When science "debunks" old knowledge it means the totality of knowledge has been increased. Closer to the truth.

Those that mock science when science is advanced are misguided.

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3495 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:58 pm to
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you get to see Him face-to-face.


Speaking of seeing the LORD face to face… how did Jacob and Moses and many other see God’s face and live?

Genesis 32:30
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So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.


Exodus 33:11
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Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. When Moses turned again into the camp, his assistant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, would not depart from the tent.


Exodus 33:20
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But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.”


I am so confused

It’s almost as if the Bible contradicts itself.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27174 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Those that mock science when science is advanced are misguided.


Science is a method; scientists are people. Sometimes they deserve to be mocked.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26677 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:12 pm to
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It’s almost as if the Bible contradicts itself.


Or your last quote could mean "man" as mankind in general and not actually refer to certain chosen people which are exceptions.

Or some mistranslation. Quite a few of those in the bible.

I don't know, just spit balling.
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