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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:48 am to LSUbest
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:48 am to LSUbest
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This is what happens when the "theory" is developed to fit a preferred conclusion.
How do you differentiate that from a theory that was created from an extremely limited data set due to technology limitations?
(You can't, stop being a progress mindreader)
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:54 am to NC_Tigah
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Interesting. How long is a day for the Judeo-Christian God.
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And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Sounds like a 24 hour day to me.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:55 am to AlxTgr
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You realize there are millions of believers in God who realize evolution is fact, right?
A god, right? Little g.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:05 am to Herooftheday
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:39 am to NC_Tigah
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Sure. You say Evolution does not jibe with Christianity. That really isn't true though, is it?
Genesis seems to literally be a full day as we know the day. It says that an evening and a morning constitutes a day and each day is a morning and an evening. Maybe it was longer then but it wasn't for the purpose of waiting for ife to happen. That happened in it's entirety later. It seems that we have been walking the earth longer than it took the earth to form.
So your hinging on the formless earth text. There was no dry land until the third day. Read beyond the forming of the earth. You will see that He created birds, cattle and beast and fish after their own kind. And after he did he told them to go and multiply. He created them and then multiplied them. After that He made man. He made the things in the water, then things on the land and afterward he made man and gave them dominion over the other creations.
2 Peter verse is taken way out of context. It has nothing to do with days of creation. It's basically saying God is eternal.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:51 am to Herooftheday
quote:So Peter was lying, in your Christian view? Because, if you believe the Bible, only God himself could originate the day and night descriptors of Genesis.
Genesis seems to literally be a full day as we know the day
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 7:52 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:56 am to TrueTiger
we were put here by a superior race of people, to test out how long before we destroyed Earth, and it renewed, like it did with dinosaurs and that era.
Wiped clean for next project
Wiped clean for next project
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:57 am to ChineseBandit58
Of course I will never change your mind…it is locked forever, and that’s fine.
But you do understand that there are several religions that believe their divine books describe the same things you profess your divine book to describe.
“When you truly understand why you dismiss all other religions, then you will come to understand why I dismiss yours” —or something like that
But you do understand that there are several religions that believe their divine books describe the same things you profess your divine book to describe.
“When you truly understand why you dismiss all other religions, then you will come to understand why I dismiss yours” —or something like that
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:58 am to NC_Tigah
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So Peter was lying, in your Christian view?
How was Peter lying? I'm not following.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:01 am to NC_Tigah
Hey go read Exodus 8-11 for clarity. It states again that the earth was created in 7 days. It doesn't seem to be eons there either.
ETA "And God spoke all these words:"
ETA "And God spoke all these words:"
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 8:03 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:02 am to Herooftheday
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Hey go read Exodus 8-11 for clarity. It states again that the earth was created in 7 days. It doesn't seem to be eons there either.
Do you really believe that?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:17 am to Mo Jeaux
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Do you really believe that?
Give me a reason I should doubt it. I'm opposed to evolution and the impossibly large time it requires. Why is 7 days any more incredible than billions of years? Creation in days isn't any less believabe than an omnipotent being creating it is it? If I don't believe in evolution and I believe in the old earth model the I would have to believe either a) absolutely nothing happened on a billion year old planet until Adam was created or B) humans have been here for billions of years before Adam undocumented. I know Jesus was crucified around 2000 years ago. There are generations of humans before that. There were 14 generations from Jesus to Abraham. Abraham was three generations from Noah. You have a couple generations from Noah to Adam but in that time they lived hundreds of years. I do think we are a recent feature, earth included.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:19 am to Herooftheday
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I'm opposed to evolution and the impossibly large time it requires.
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If I don't believe in evolution
Well, there's your problem.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Well, there's your problem.
It hasn't been a problem. I'm just making my case for why the bible doesn't jibe with evolution. Some here said that.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:27 am to Herooftheday
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It hasn't been a problem.
It's a problem for your "case."
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I'm just making my case for why the bible doesn't jibe with evolution. Some here said that.
Christianity, not the Bible.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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It's a problem for your "case."
Stating the obvious this morning
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Christianity, not the Bible.
The Bible
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:41 am to Herooftheday
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The Bible
Well, here's what you originally replied to:
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The problem is that people think Darwin's theory conflicts with their religious beliefs even though Darwin himself was a devout Christian and didn't see at all how his theory of natural selection conflicted with his religion.
The conversation may very well have changed from that, but I don't generally care what the Bible says because it's nonsense.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:42 am to Herooftheday
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I'm just making my case for why the bible doesn't jibe with evolution.
There is such a thing as Theistic Evolution and its perfectly fine.
But, logically, for you:
Instead of looking at the "discrepancy" and questioning the document written by and for barely literate desert nomads +2000 years ago, who had no understanding of the universe at all, and who wrote it in ancient languages with a miniscule number of words, making translating the documents into modern English fraught with challenges and mistranslations...
...you instead reject the thing based on massive available data and study.
Makes total sense
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:50 am to Herooftheday
quote:Clearly, and for someone who so readily insults validity of others' faith, it's really not surprising.
How was Peter lying? I'm not following.
Peter 3:8
"With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."
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