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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:19 am to Herooftheday
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:19 am to Herooftheday
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If I don't believe in evolution
Evolution is not something to be believed or not believed. Evolution is observable, testable, scientific fact. Evolution is denied by the deluded who deny basic reality and live in a fantasy.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:19 am to Herooftheday
quote:No, how one reads the Bible.
It is fascinating to me that there are still people who believe this way.
Believe the bible?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:24 am to Squirrelmeister
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Evolution is observable, testable, scientific fact.
That's what the climate zealots say about man made global warming. CO2 contributes to global warming, we produce CO2, man made global warming is a fact. The science is settled.
The question isn't whether or not descent with modification happens, the question is whether or not it's a sufficient explanation.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:25 am to NC_Tigah
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Negative.
Just responding to these.
2 Peter was saying that God is on a different schedule. God is on God's time. The church he was writing to were getting impatient for the second coming of Christ. I guess the people of the church were starting to doubt.
The days of genesis are morning and evening for each day. The meaning of the days of creation as ordinary days is also affirmed in Exodus 20.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:30 am to AlxTgr
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No, how one reads the Bible.
Easy. Like reading anything else really
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:30 am to Herooftheday
quote:Now you're you're being obtuse.
No, how one reads the Bible.
Easy. Like reading anything else really
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:31 am to Herooftheday
quote:Negative
The meaning of the days of creation as ordinary days is also affirmed in Exodus 20.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:32 am to Squirrelmeister
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Evolution is observable, testable, scientific fact.
Scientific fact huh?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:34 am to AlxTgr
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Now you're you're being obtuse.
Well are you talking about young earth? You're being vague
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:34 am to NC_Tigah
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Negative
Great point. Settled then
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:37 am to Flats
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That's what the climate zealots say about man made global warming. CO2 contributes to global warming, we produce CO2, man made global warming is a fact. The science is settled.
There is no scientific theory of global warming (or cooling). Weak hypotheses at best. Climate changes over time, humans contribute to the climate (also butterfly farts and volcanic eruptions) change to various extents. That’s a far younger area of study that’s in its infancy with many conflicting data sets and contrary evidence. Even if man is partially to blame, should we do anything about it? Should we give billions to China and India and Ukraine and enrich the global communist communities and the Clinton Foundation? I’d say no.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:38 am to TrueTiger
Eliminating a possible theory helps us find the truth. This is actually a wonderous discovery. Science does not claim to have the final word on truth. No. It is a continual journey of discovery.
Some of the most exciting moments in science are when established theories are shown to be wrong. A period of discovery usually follows.
When religion is wrong, people re-interpret sacred texts to suit their established beliefs. When science is wrong, it adapts.
Some of the most exciting moments in science are when established theories are shown to be wrong. A period of discovery usually follows.
When religion is wrong, people re-interpret sacred texts to suit their established beliefs. When science is wrong, it adapts.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:40 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:Squirrelmeister, Noah's 'world' obviously wouldn't have included penguins, polar bears, kangaroos, and sloths. There are catastrophic flood stories associated with most late-stadial/early-interstadial civilizations in the northern hemisphere. Care to guess why?
Noah’s flood
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:42 am to Squirrelmeister
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There is no scientific theory of global warming (or cooling). Weak hypotheses at best.
No kidding. You're doing a bait & switch, acting as if Darwin's finch beaks prove that all life on earth came from the first single-cell organism that somehow formed itself and was able to replicate, and we somehow know that as scientific fact. It's an extrapolation so large it's difficult to quantify.
It's impossible to discuss "evolution" without defining what you're talking about. It's dishonest to conflate two different definitions.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:45 am to Flats
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It's impossible to discuss "evolution" without defining what you're talking about.
I think adaptations are getting wrapped up in it. Herd immunity is an evolution.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:54 am to TrueTiger
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"You think evolution will be “debunked”?"
Already has been
BRB gonna tell biologists, evolutionary biologists, paleontologists, epidemiologists, and zoologists to re-write their textbooks.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:07 pm to Flats
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You're doing a bait & switch,
Don’t know what you mean. I was comparing the strongest scientific theory versus weak hypotheses.
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Darwin's finch beaks prove that all life on earth came from the first single-cell organism that somehow formed itself and was able to replicate,
That’s a separate issue. Evolution is undeniable fact, whereas the methods by which life began are at the weak hypothesis level.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:07 pm to Rule 303
Are you going through all these comments? Going to be a long day for you.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:19 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Evolution is undeniable fact,
You're still attempting the bait & switch. Descent with modification is a fact.
Evolution as is being discussed here means that every single life form on earth was formed from the first life form (another "give us one miracle") through random mutation and selective pressure. That cell eventually evolved into daisies and butterflies and humans. That is not a proven fact, it hasn't been observed, it can't be observed.
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whereas the methods by which life began are at the weak hypothesis level.
That's putting it mildly.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:28 pm to Herooftheday
quote:It really isn't.
Herd immunity is an evolution.
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