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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:28 pm to Flats
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:28 pm to Flats
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You're still attempting the bait & switch.
Negative.
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Evolution as is being discussed here means that every single life form on earth was formed from the first life form
It does not. However, all known life that has had their DNA sequenced has been shown to be descended from a common ancestor.
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That cell eventually evolved into daisies and butterflies and humans.
Congratulations, you made a correct statement.
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That is not a proven fact, it hasn't been observed, it can't be observed.
False.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:12 pm to Squirrelmeister
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False.
I didn't realize we could observe something that happened millions/billions of years ago. Extrapolation isn't observation, mensa.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:13 pm to Flats
quote:Yeah, it pretty much is.
Evolution as is being discussed here means that every single life form on earth was formed from the first life form (another "give us one miracle") through random mutation and selective pressure. That cell eventually evolved into daisies and butterflies and humans. That is not a proven fact,
quote:Yeah, it pretty much has.
it hasn't been observed
Are you saying mammals were always mammals, reptiles were always reptiles, etc?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:17 pm to AlxTgr
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Are you saying mammals were always mammals, reptiles were always reptiles, etc?
He wants to see, with his own eyes, a crocodile turning into a duck. He wants to see the “crocoduck” transitional missing link living its life, before he’ll get on the evolution train.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:21 pm to Flats
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another "give us one miracle"
By far the most overused phrase when apologists try to play scientists.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:22 pm to Squirrelmeister
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He wants to see, with his own eyes, a crocodile turning into a duck.
What I want to see is irrelevant, but thanks for explaining what "observe" means. I have no problem with evolution to an extent, but I'm not going to change the meanings of words for your religion.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:49 pm to Squirrelmeister
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He wants to see, with his own eyes, a crocodile turning into a duck. He wants to see the “crocoduck” transitional missing link living its life, before he’ll get on the evolution train.
I'd dismiss that too.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:52 pm to Flats
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the first single-cell organism that somehow formed itself and was able to replicate, and we somehow know that as scientific fact. It's an extrapolation so large it's difficult to quantify.
Single cell organisms (cyanobacteria) were Earth's only lifeform for nearly 3 Billion years!
Very simple multicellular organisms began appearing about 650 Million years ago.
The first early vertebrates appeared 50-100 Million years ago along with relatively complex forms such as trilobites.... and so forth.
Those timeframes are expansive considering the Homo genus only appeared about 2.5 Million yrs ago, and Homo sapiens only appeared about 250000 years ago.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:57 pm to Flats
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What I want to see is irrelevant, but thanks for explaining what "observe" means.
They didn't explain what 'observe' means.
They explained what YOU think observation means.
You don't have the base-level understanding of the scientific process to even begin learning the stuff people are discussing in this thread. Either learn what you're trying to talk about, or keep your mouth shut.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:57 pm to Flats
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I have no problem with evolution to an extent, but I'm not going to change the meanings of words for your religion.
Are you saying mammals were always mammals, reptiles were always reptiles, etc?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:58 pm to NC_Tigah
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Single cell organisms (cyanobacteria) were Earth's only lifeform for nearly 3 Billion years!
And? I'm not sure why you clipped part of my quote; it made it nonsensical.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:05 pm to Azkiger
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You can't, stop being a progress mindreader
I worked as a Biologist for the DOE.
I know how funding steers the currents of discovery.
Make all the excuses you want, money calls the shots, and if one hoe won't play the next one might.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:09 pm to LSUconvert
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They didn't explain what 'observe' means.
They explained what YOU think observation means.
Does it mean "guess about something that happened 2 billion years ago?"
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Either learn what you're trying to talk about, or keep your mouth shut.
The internet is serious bidness.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:13 pm to AlxTgr
Science proven fact = pretty much
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:20 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Evolution is undeniable fact, whereas the methods by which life began are at the weak hypothesis level.
Darwinian evolution is absolutely very questionable. Posts like this just show how deep secular dogmatism reaches. It basically turns views considered anti-religious, whether true or false, into new secular religious tenets that are unquestionable.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:22 pm to Flats
quote:Were you addressing the improbability of abiogenesis or evolution?
And? I'm not sure why you clipped part of my quote; it made it nonsensical.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Darwinian evolution is absolutely very questionable. Posts like this just show how deep secular dogmatism reaches.
There are a lot of parallels to the covidians and how they overstated claims about the vax, and their response to anybody who questioned the dogma.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:24 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Darwinian evolution
Not really a thing anymore.
The science has ahem evolved
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:27 pm to NC_Tigah
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Were you addressing the improbability of abiogenesis or evolution?
I was merely defining the term "evolution" and what it means.
I don't know that anybody can determine the improbability of abiogenesis. It looks close to impossible with our current knowledge, but that may change tomorrow.
As for evolution, very few people seem to be interested in the probability outside of those asking questions.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:37 pm to Fun Bunch
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Not really a thing anymore.
The science has ahem evolved
Explain in detail.
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