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Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62697 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:28 pm to
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Science is science and should be trusted, until it changes again. Ooops...


Isn't that a feature of science and not a bug?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Science is science and should be trusted, until it changes again. Ooops...


Science does what science is supposed to do...

News at 11.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15420 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:31 pm to
Global Warming experienced an evolutionary event that year when we experienced the coldest winter on record for the entire northern hemisphere!

Global Warming died and Climate Change was born.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Global Warming died and Climate Change was born.



I guess that's as good as it gets sometimes. Theory stands
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Science does what science is supposed to do...


Explain please.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Explain please.


You understand that the scientific method is iterative and cyclical, correct?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:40 pm to
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I was a nationally recognized Biologist, top 1% nationwide by academia.




How often did you study gender?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Does that create a new species?

There's really no such thing in nature. Species are a construct of man to help categorize organisms. Organisms don't really exist in categories, we impose categories on them.

Two populations of organisms could start off able to reproduce and have viable offspring, and thus be considered the same species. If these populations become separated, over time the likelihood of viable offspring becomes less and less, until it becomes so unlikely as to be nearly impossible - at which time they are considered to be different species.

It's a gradual process that exists on a continuum, not like one day a dinosaur suddenly hatches a chicken.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8971 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Abiogenesis is a bit of a different animal, in that we can't even come up with theoretical possibilities. Not only do we not know how it happened, we're struggling with how it could have happened.



Exactly, this has been sought for a long time. Many PHDs and Nobel laureates have taken a shot at this and failed, or converted to guiding hand/panspermia (which itself just passes the buck).

The simple facts are stunning - the amount of information contained in one small protein (and there are millions of proteins in 1 cell) dwarfs what reasonable scientists can admit to being possible randomly. In fact the odds of making ONE amino acid (which make up proteins) are so unbelievably small that it's uncomfortable to write @ 10^65 (the number of atoms in the UNIVERSE is 10^83).

This is for ONE amino acid chain to form functionally. Then you need 100s to form one protein, then milllions of proteins to form a cell. Then, they have to self organize to instruct the cells to replicate and carry that information forward.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:52 pm to
At least we know for sure COVID was naturally occurring and the vaccine prevents you from catching or spreading it. Hurray science!
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:55 pm to
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dwarfs what reasonable scientists can admit to being possible randomly


Would trillions of years cover it?

ETA Does science think in trillions on the age of earth or just in the billion/million range?
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:07 pm to
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How much does it bother you that aliens is a better explanation than your god?

Technically, God is Extraterrestrial.





So there's that.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8971 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Would trillions of years cover it?



The odds above are:

1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

here's 1 trillion:
1,000,000,000,000

Age of universe, latest age:
26,700,000,000 years
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8971 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:11 pm to
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How much does it bother you that aliens is a better explanation than your god?



Who made the aliens? Who made the universe? Where did time come from? Hawking and Co. has nearly proven there was a beginning to space-time. If matter occupies space, and space and time were created, aliens could not have existed to create space-time.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:18 pm to
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aliens could not have existed to create space-time.

Entities beyond space-time are the most alien of all.

Remember, while transiting the galaxy, the whole crew of the Enterprise are aliens, not just Spock.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:31 pm to
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You understand that the scientific method is iterative and cyclical, correct?


That most of it is just democratic word mush? Yeah, I get it.

There is science you can prove. There is some you cannot prove. There is some still out there that many want to claim it's science and you should believe in what they say because we are here at this point, but we are not sure where this will actually lead to.

It's undiscovered. Why is it that hard to say this word? Undiscovered Science. We really don't know the outcome but we will drive 8 billion people into something that cannot be proven.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 4:36 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136722 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:32 pm to
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confusing gender with sex
Such an ironical pretext.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:34 pm to
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quote:

You understand that the scientific method is iterative and cyclical, correct?


That most of it is just democratic word mush? Yeah, I get it.

/thread
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:38 pm to
And here we are. At the point of origin that are explained a dozen ways with no proof for any of it. Pick your explanation.

"If the Human Brain Were So Simple That We Could Understand It, We Would Be So Simple That We Couldn’t"

I don't think we will ever know things on this scale absolutely. At least not with these brains. We are on the peatry dish looking out. All we do here is adapt for survival. We haven't explained much. And honestly we aren't doing any better than anything else on this planet. We are doing a decent job at elbowing out other species and their habitats and our own.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136722 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:39 pm to
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/thread
Only in the last 5 yrs would someone have the gall to post idiocy about "confusing gender with sex" and then shortly thereafter confidently post "/thread"

Seriously?

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