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re: Serious question to those who feel this is being overblown
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:08 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:08 pm to LSUconvert
quote:sigh. is it really necessary to shut down the entire state, crashing the entire economy just because nola is getting the worst of it? the obvious, reasonable answer is no. there's no reason for that response. it's not sensible at all.
Do you believe 'shutting down' the state doesn't help eliminate the spread?
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:08 pm to David_DJS
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Question for you ... if we fought heart disease or the opioid epidemic like we are C-19, what do you think that would look like?
Again, I don't have the medical knowledge necessary to say anything of value on the matter. My hunch is that you do not either.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:09 pm to LSUconvert
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That most of the decision making about a virus should be left to medical knowledge?
No, that most of the decision making in respect of societal responses to a virus should be left to medical knowledge of how to reduce the spread of the virus.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:11 pm to Mo Jeaux
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societal responses to a virus should be left to medical knowledge of how to reduce the spread of the virus.
If you find that odd I'm not really sure what conversation we can have. If you don't want to listen to trained medical professionals about matters involving medicine....
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:11 pm to bfniii
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is it really necessary to shut down the entire state, crashing the entire economy just because nola is getting the worst of it? the obvious, reasonable answer is no.
I do not possess the medical knowledge required to say what is and is not reasonable in this situation.
My hunch is that you do not possess that kind of knowledge either.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:12 pm to LSUconvert
quote:which is not required to look at a map and know that 4 or 5 msa's are the hotspots and basically no one else is feeling this outbreak basically at all. why can't there be a columbo who says "hey, instead of crashing the entire healthcare system for everyone, how about we just cordon off the worst affected areas?"
I don't possess the medical knowledge of viruses to answer this
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:13 pm to LSU2a
quote:you're missing the point
There are three main reasons for this
quote:how many times does this have to be addressed?
If that were true then it would have been apparent at California hospitals by now
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:13 pm to LSUconvert
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you don't want to listen to trained medical professionals about matters involving medicine....
Oh for Christ's sake.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:14 pm to LSUconvert
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That most of the decision making about a virus should be left to medical knowledge
This decision making is about BOTH the virus AND the economic impact of actions taken
Single variable thinking is dumb
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:14 pm to LSUconvert
quote:given that basically everyone in the medical community is now admitting the models were WAY off? yes.
That most of the decision making about a virus should be left to medical knowledge?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:16 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:well first, medical professionals have not all been on the same page from the beginning. see: chloroquine. second, they are definitely publicly admitting now the models were trash
No, that most of the decision making in respect of societal responses to a virus should be left to medical knowledge of how to reduce the spread of the virus.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:16 pm to Chromdome35
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Hydro/ZPack combo isn't a silver bullet
Apparently it is and I fully support return to business as usual in most of the country the Monday after Easter.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:17 pm to bfniii
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well first, medical professionals have not all been on the same page from the beginning. see: chloroquine. second, they are definitely publicly admitting now the models were trash
I think you misunderstood my statement.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:17 pm to LSUconvert
quote:and as i explained, medical expertise is not necessary so i'm having trouble understanding why you're being obtuse about it.
I do not possess the medical knowledge required to say what is and is not reasonable in this situation
quote:i know how to look at a map
My hunch is that you do not possess that kind of knowledge either
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:17 pm to LSUconvert
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This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:17 pm to bfniii
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medical expertise is not necessary
We disagree on this point.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:18 pm to Chromdome35
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f you are in the group of people who thinks this is being overblown and it is no worse than the flu, what threshold has to be crossed for you to change your mind?
When the combined total of deaths from corana virus exceeds the deaths for the flu.
So far the Flu is leading around 20 to 1
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:18 pm to LSUconvert
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Again, I don't have the medical knowledge necessary to say anything of value on the matter. My hunch is that you do not either.
Really? So you have turned your life and family and finances over to "experts" in their various fields?
You don't need a medical degree to do the pretty simple calculus that it make no sense to spend $5 trillion to save 100,000 people from a C-19, when the vast majority of those very folks would die from some other virus if C-19 wasn't around.
I'm not asking if you believe that's the reality of C-19. I'm asking if you're unable to render your own opinion on the sensibility of the hypothetical scenario above.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:20 pm to Chromdome35
Unless this thing gets over 80,000 deaths, I’m saying it’s overblown. Unless it gets over 1,000,000 deaths, these draconian social distancing measures were in no way justifiable.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:24 pm to kingbob
Yeah currently 3, 415 deaths....w the 100,000-200,000 projections...thats still 96,585 to go...are we going to quarantine the remainder of the year??
Think they are trying to scare people to stay away from each other ...
Im not saying this virus is not bad ; just not the level of PANIC the MEDIA tries to induce
Like Fake news CBS showing Italian Hospital trying to pass it off as NYC Hospital
Think they are trying to scare people to stay away from each other ...
Im not saying this virus is not bad ; just not the level of PANIC the MEDIA tries to induce
Like Fake news CBS showing Italian Hospital trying to pass it off as NYC Hospital
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