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re: Should Trump send troops into Mexico?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:22 am to Indefatigable
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:22 am to Indefatigable
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. It isn't quite the same thing as shutting off the tap to Cuba.
Or invading Iraq, with whom I believe we had long-term sanctions for years prior to the invasion.
This is just irrational muh fight nonsense. The most retarded form of masculinity projected on the internet without using the term "Chad"
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:23 am to Indefatigable
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The bigger question would be who would benefit the most, and that would be China.
Doesn't have to be China, and certainly wouldn't be if it were up to me. We have many trading partners that are only interested in being a trading partner. There's no requirement for us to trade with communist nations, who want to extend their control over the world. Just as we aren't required to trade with a country who parades criminal illegals and tons of dope across our border every day.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:24 am to troyt37
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Completely relevant to the costs of an open border with Mexico
We aren't discussing that. Again, irrelevant to the discussion. You're too emotional about this and your posting irrelevant gibberish.
Let the rational types discuss this. You can go to Facebook.
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and to the notion that Mexico is somehow some great ally.
They are 100% one of our closest allies and largest trading partners.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:25 am to Ag Zwin
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If you are in any way in favor of this, let me ask you one question: Are you ready to send your boy there to do the fighting?
It would be over in 24hrs beta
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:26 am to SDVTiger
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It would be over in 24hrs beta
You have a son that’s serving?
Do you people have any idea how ridiculous and childish you look when you throw around this “beta” crap when posting about sending troops to do the fighting you won’t be seeing yourself?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:27 am to Jbird
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Well put 777
thanks...reason why i put cant stop demand somewhat is because in a very very robust economy drug use tends to slow some.
the other thing is you can fight a culture war somewhat over time. You promote 1950s style traditional nuclear family values and create the economy to support that and it will slow the use and it will help save us from population collapse, especially amongst middle to upper middle class whites
but there will always be some form of demand no matter how harsh you make the penalties.
the other option is close the border and make every thing legal but that comes with its own set of issues as we have seen.
even if everything is legal, economy is crushing and you take a swing back to traditional family values there will always be demand
i come from a family broken apart by a mother that couldnt help herself when it came to pills. no health concerns, legal status or love for her kids could stop her...so i understand this better than almost anyone. Luckily I had an amazing father who made sure we were going to be ok and set up for success but not everyone is as lucky to have the kind of parent i had either.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:28 am to momentoftruth87
Do you knee-jerk to everything in your life? Sounds like it.
By the way tell your neighbor to stop shoving their client's (Colombians) product up his nose. Without the demand the cartels would not be a problem
By the way tell your neighbor to stop shoving their client's (Colombians) product up his nose. Without the demand the cartels would not be a problem
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:29 am to Ag Zwin
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You have a son that’s serving?
Do you people have any idea how ridiculous and childish you look when you throw around this “beta” crap when posting about sending troops to do the fighting you won’t be seeing yourself?
no he doesnt understand.
those that never served and never have loved ones that served are always the first to volunteer other peoples kids to die for a cause, but never their own.
i still think strategic strikes after terror designation is the first step along with militarizing the border but every one acts like this is so easy to stop when it isnt at all.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:31 am to Geekboy
To be quite honest, a US invasion of Mexico is a more legitimate use of our military than pretty much anything else that we're currently involved in. Mexico's government continues to allow the unfettered flow of drugs and criminals into our nation across our common border. A military action by the United States could quite easily and truthfully be described as defending our nation.
It's not unprecedented either. Our army had to go into Mexico to deal with Pancho Villa and his banditos after they had attacked US towns in New Mexico in the late 1910s and 1920s.
At the very least, it's an option that should be kept on the table.
It's not unprecedented either. Our army had to go into Mexico to deal with Pancho Villa and his banditos after they had attacked US towns in New Mexico in the late 1910s and 1920s.
At the very least, it's an option that should be kept on the table.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:31 am to lsu777
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i come from a family broken apart by a mother that couldnt help herself when it came to pills.
nuking Mexico isn't going to stop people from getting addicted to xanax or oxycontin or whatever the next miracle drug pharma comes up with to save us
that devil comes from within
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:34 am to Dire Wolf
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nuking Mexico isn't going to stop people from getting addicted to xanax or oxycontin or whatever the next miracle drug pharma comes up with to save us
that devil comes from within
umm no shite, did you read anything i wrote?
i specifically said that like 4 times. that was the whole point, along with you cant just cut the head off and expect it to go away.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:40 am to lsu777
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umm no shite, did you read anything i wrote?
yes, i largely agree with you. Stable and healthy Mexican economy is best for America.
just wanted to reiterate that a very large portion of Americans' drug problem isn't coke and dope coming from Mexico. Oxycontin was 100% our own doing. Fent is just the fallout from that
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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We aren't discussing that. Again, irrelevant to the discussion.
We are discussing that, fricko. The title of the thread is asking if Trump should send troops to Mexico. All the reasons for and against are relevant to the discussion.
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They are 100% one of our closest allies and largest trading partners.
They are one of our largest trading partners. That does not make them an ally. Allies do not shovel decades of shite across the border, and expect the taxpayer to foot the bill. Allies do not allow illegals through their country in order to illegally enter the US, further burdening the US taxpayer. Allies do not condone if not promote the production and transport of tons of sometimes deadly illicit drugs across the border into the US. Allies do not traffic humans into the US for the purposes of the sex trade.
If Mexico is an ally, then the mafia is an ally. The Hells Angels are an ally. Bratva is an ally. Triad is an ally.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:42 am to QboveTopSecret
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1. Marines retake the Panama canal, stop the gap. 2. Southern command conducts ops in Mexico. 3.Independance for Northern Mexico, becomes US territory.
This is always the kind of shite that goes along with nationalist populism.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:42 am to Dire Wolf
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yes, i largely agree with you. Stable and healthy Mexican economy is best for America.
just wanted to reiterate that a very large portion of Americans' drug problem isn't coke and dope coming from Mexico. Oxycontin was 100% our own doing. Fent is just the fallout from that
correct....an addict will do what it takes...consequences be damned.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:44 am to lsu777
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those that never served and never have loved ones that served are always the first to volunteer other peoples kids to die for a cause, but never their own.
73,654 people died from a fentanyl overdose in the US in 2022, and that number is a lowball number. I served many in my family served, deaths in combat vs Fentanyl. That winner is Fentanyl.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:44 am to troyt37
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They are one of our largest trading partners. That does not make them an ally. Allies do not shovel decades of shite across the border, and expect the taxpayer to foot the bill. Allies do not allow illegals through their country in order to illegally enter the US, further burdening the US taxpayer. Allies do not condone if not promote the production and transport of tons of sometimes deadly illicit drugs across the border into the US. Allies do not traffic humans into the US for the purposes of the sex trade.
If Mexico is an ally, then the mafia is an ally. The Hells Angels are an ally. Bratva is an ally. Triad is an ally.
this i do agree with.
mexico is not an ally.....they are always in it for themselves. they have shoveled shite on us for decades...much of it our own fault though.
they are more an economic alliance with us. they provide us with goods is pretty much the extent of them being an ally.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:46 am to troyt37
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The title of the thread is asking if Trump should send troops to Mexico.
Yes. Where in that question is an "open border" an issue? Nowhere.
So "open border" discussions are irrelevant to the thread.
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That does not make them an ally.
Being an ally does.
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Allies do not shovel decades of shite across the border, and expect the taxpayer to foot the bill.
Emotional projection
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Allies do not allow illegals through their country in order to illegally enter the US, further burdening the US taxpayer.
More irrelevant emotional projection
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Allies do not condone if not promote the production and transport of tons of sometimes deadly illicit drugs across the border into the US.
Not just emotional projection, but a lie.
Mexico literally just engaged in an active military conflict to thwart this, at great cost, and they lose. This imaginary life where the actual government/citizenry hasn't paid real costs (in money, lives, culture, etc.) is so silly. It's hard to imagine someone with an IQ large enough to read can believe this fantasy nonsense.
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Allies do not traffic humans into the US for the purposes of the sex trade.
Note: the cartels are not our allies. Nobody claimed they were.
You're off the rails and can't even distinguish what we're talking about or reality anymore.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The best economic solution (beyond legalizing drugs) is to pay Mexico and the Cartels to do stop dealing drugs.
Would be a lot cheaper than war.
Wouldn't work. They would pocket the money and then keep selling the drugs, laughing at our stupidity the entire time.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:47 am to lsu777
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correct....an addict will do what it takes...consequences be damned.
luckily i liked to poop more than i liked the feeling of painkillers. Had several opportunities to go down a dark path and shitting is what kept me from that addiction
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