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re: St. George's latest statement on Facebook...Wow!
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:50 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:50 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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King done stepped in it now!
This really wouldn't be that surprising.
Ask anyone who knows him or worked with him on a daily basis (such as some of the previous Chancellors, many of whom left primarily because of King).
He's about as duplicitous and conniving as it gets.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 10:54 am
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:51 am to Chad504boy
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Can someone explain this st. george thing to me in less than 4-5 sentences?
Unincorporated portion of BR wants to become it's own city. BR officials don't want it to happen because they'll lose tax money so they've turned this into a race issue. Support for SG is tantamount to hosting a klan rally.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:55 am to upgrayedd
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white-manning in metro BR
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so they've turned this into a race issue
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:58 am to LSURussian
If I'm gonna get accused of it, I might as well revel in it
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:02 am to Chad504boy
quote:unincorporated ebr parish wants to form a sister city that would have its own public services. originally city officials didn't want this because the mall, the medical corridor, and the casino were all going to be included, which would have taken parish tax money and allocated it to only that small percentage of parish residents. city annexed the money making parts of the unincorporated area.
Can someone explain this st. george thing to me in less than 4-5 sentences?
not sure what the argument against it is now. if they want to do break off, the only way they'll be able to afford public schooling is a hefty hike in property taxes.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:06 am to Chad504boy
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Can someone explain this st. george thing to me in less than 4-5 sentences?
EBR Parish and the city of Baton Rouge have a joint government.
Due to this and Voting Rights Act which prevents municipalities from annexing land that would dilute minority voting power, the city has highly gerrymandered borders with the suburbs south and east of those borders unincorporated.
Inside the city limits, BRPD and BRFD provide police and fire. Outside the city limits, EBRSD provides police and the residents tax themselves to pay for St. George Fire Department. Much of the property taxes collected in the unincorporated areas still go into the city/parisg general fund.
Due to a federal desegregation case in the 80's, forced bussing destroyed the school system in the parish. This order was only recently lifted, allowing for school district boundaries to reflect neighborhoods. The unincorporated area feels underserved, with only one high school, and makes up a minirity on the school board. They want local control.
The unincorporated area tried to form an independent school district, but was denied in the state legislature. They were told they could not do so without first forming a city.
They then created a petition to incorporate the unincorporated areas to create a city called St. George.
To sabotage the new city, Baton Rouge annexed a bunch of commercial property while carefully avoiding any residential areas to keep parts of the mall, hospitals, and Laberge in the city. LSU provided some of the land to connect Laberge.
This petition was counted by the city/parish government who threw out just enough signatures to keep it off the ballot.
Bodi White, one of the St. George organizers, then ran for mayor/president and lost to Broome. Broome's radical, race-baiting agenda (after running as a business-friendly moderate) has emboldened the St. George movement and further divided the city.
More anti-incorporation shenanigans are underway in the legislature to force incorporation to be voted on not just by those in the proposed area, but by the whole parish.
Broome and her ilk have gotten used to running the unincorporated areas like a colony, siphoning tax money while neglecting investment. Kip saw the need to invest in the suburbs to keep people fleeing to AP and LP. Broome wants to halt investment in St. George and focus only on downtown and NBR. St. George wants to run their own schools and keep their taxes to build their own roads. They can't let their colony off the plantation. They can't allow the people to decide for themselves.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:13 am to Machine
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the only way they'll be able to afford public schooling is a hefty hike in property taxes.
We in proposed SG (Gotham City) pay a lot of money for schools now in the way of sales taxes and property taxes. That money would go to an ISD and not to the EBR System.
I'm not so sure your statement is correct, and I believe it to be pure speculation.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:16 am to doubleb
Let us hope that that is the case and St. George is successful.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:18 am to doubleb
DoubleB, have you heard any details as to what the new incorporation effort's city limits will be?
About 6 months ago, plus or minus, I read that the organizers said they are going to reduce the size of the proposed new city to decrease the number of signatures they will need.
But I haven't seen anything since then.
Have you?
About 6 months ago, plus or minus, I read that the organizers said they are going to reduce the size of the proposed new city to decrease the number of signatures they will need.
But I haven't seen anything since then.
Have you?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:19 am to doubleb
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I'm not so sure your statement is correct, and I believe it to be pure speculation.
its definitely speculation
i speculate that without the mall of louisiana, the medical corridor, and the casino resort, the influx of taxes to st george will be nowhere near enough to support the building of the multiple schools necessary to accommodate everybody in the proposed city. Right now there's just Woodlawn...yall have fun with that
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:40 am to Kramer26
Im against the new city but am completely sympathetic to their desire and would probably end up moving there if it ever happened. Its amazing how idiotic the approach has been from the detractors and all but guarantees continued efforts to breakaway.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:43 am to TROLA
Exactly. Their demands were far from unreasonable at the start. A compromise could have easily been made by building another high school (maybe one near Gardere and Highland), and adding a couple primary and middle schools.
By pulling all of these parliamentary tricks, turning this into a race issue (despite half the school-aged children in St. George being black or Hispanic), and calling St. George supporters terrorists and segregationists, they have ensured that nothing but a full split will satisfy the suburbanites.
By pulling all of these parliamentary tricks, turning this into a race issue (despite half the school-aged children in St. George being black or Hispanic), and calling St. George supporters terrorists and segregationists, they have ensured that nothing but a full split will satisfy the suburbanites.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:47 am to LSURussian
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DoubleB, have you heard any details as to what the new incorporation effort's city limits will be?
No I have not, I can reach out and try to find out though.
Are you thinking about changing sides?
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About 6 months ago, plus or minus, I read that the organizers said they are going to reduce the size of the proposed new city to decrease the number of signatures they will need.
If they shrink it and include only the area around Woodlawn, Sheandoah, etc.; I think it passes easily; however, I believe a large ISD is necessary to save the parish. Unfortunately another large city is really hard to pull off.
I wish the city and ISD weren't tied together, but the way Broome and her people are going, we may have to go that route soon.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:50 am to doubleb
quote:would need a new name for the city. would be funny if St. George didn't include St. George
If they shrink it and include only the area around Woodlawn, Sheandoah, etc.; I think it passes easily; however, I believe a large ISD is necessary to save the parish.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:50 am to Machine
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there's just Woodlawn...yall have fun with that
Woodlawn's enrollment is shrinking. They went from 5A to 4A. There's room for more kids.
And FWIW, we all pay taxes for capital construction projects now. The problem is the schools they build aren't in SG. They are conveniently paced inside the city limits, and they are run and staffed by poor admins and some poor teachers.
Look at Lee High, Broadmoor Elementary. Old schools are torn down and new schools are built on the same sites and they bus kids in.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:51 am to Machine
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would need a new name for the city. would be funny if St. George didn't include St. George
I renamed it Gotham city this morning
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 am to TROLA
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Im against the new city
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but am completely sympathetic to their desire
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would probably end up moving there
Are you sure you're against SG?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 am to doubleb
The reason it was so big originally was to avoid accusations of racism. They just included all of the unincorporated areas south and east of the city.
They were still branded as racists, so they're going to scale it back to a more sustainable size.
They were still branded as racists, so they're going to scale it back to a more sustainable size.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 am to doubleb
I recommend Bawville or Baton Bleu
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:54 am to kingbob
Yes, they simply used two legal boundaries that were in play already; St. George Fire Dept. and the East Side Fire Dept. and combined them to form St. George.
There was no gerrymandering, no effort to exclude Gardere, no effort to include the Mall of the Casino. They simply included both Fire Districts.
There was no gerrymandering, no effort to exclude Gardere, no effort to include the Mall of the Casino. They simply included both Fire Districts.
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