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re: Standardized testing in schools
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:17 pm to 03 West CoChamps
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:17 pm to 03 West CoChamps
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That is completely irrelevant. It is a content knowledge measure. Teachers would become the tutors.
Do MLB scouts care if you got outside help besides your HS coach when they are scouting for the draft?
It depends on what you are looking for, but I think that analogy fails a few ways.
From the perspective of a parent, if I'm looking at a school to send my children to, I want to know how well the school does educating them as a baseline. I don't care that a small percentage did above and beyond because they paid extra for enhanced results. I might have an MIT worthy child that is worth that, but I may have another that is going to SLU and it's not worth spending the tutoring dollars on but still a solid baseline education is important.
From a university perspective, having a bunch of kids score well because they had tutoring on the ACT/SAT only to fail out because they don't have true core knowledge is not a good long term strategy for determining a freshman class. Now, in practice I don't think a lot of universities are doing that these days, but that is a different conversation.
So to your MLB scout analogy, sure they don't care if the prospect is good because they don't care about the underlying structure. A better analogy would be if you were looking for Braxxton's travel ball team and one kid got drafted because his parent's paid $10k for a hitting coach but the rest of the team had no real coaching and couldn't hit a curveball, would you still sign your kid up for that team?
ETA: This isn't to say standardized testing is perfect, it isn't, and it also has screwed up the way a lot of schools teach. lsu77 and SFP summed it up pretty well on the last page.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 1:20 pm
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:19 pm to LemmyLives
quote:I agree with all of this but there is no accountability there or with the kids they blame the teachers if the scores don’t meet standards so the teacher focuses on the tests so they don’t get fired
FIFY. It's not hard to get good grades at a Title I school, but you have to actually show up, and have a parent that glances at your homework every once in a while.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:21 pm to 03 West CoChamps
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It is a content knowledge measure.
Unless the ACT has completely changed since I took it, it's an analytical measure not primarily a knowledge one.
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Do MLB scouts care if you got outside help besides your HS coach when they are scouting for the draft?
You've never heard of maxing out your talent level?
Great players who have more skill (due to more training given) at a certain level fall behind players with potential who have some production but a lower skill level at that time.
If you have the physical potential, you can always catch up on skill, and then you'll be much better than the kid who maxed out in high school. This is the same with intelligence.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:22 pm to lsu777
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And the kids suffer Because what they really need is to be put on a vocational path and have a personal finance class.
100%
At lot of these kids, even at the Kindergarten level, aren't going to be cut out for vocational work. Their parents allow them to miss weeks of class, show up late repeatedly, and send them to school never having held a pair of safety scissors. Welding isn't in a lot of their futures.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:22 pm to 03 West CoChamps
Social Studies and History shouldn't be on standardized tests.
so....ya want em to learn it from tik tok
so....ya want em to learn it from tik tok
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