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re: Still zero Christian terror attacks
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:21 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:21 pm to wackatimesthree
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None of those things are bad per se, and (obviously) neither is Christianity
Regardless of "validity", following the teaching of Christ has allowed W. Civ to flourish.
Following Allah's teachings has half the ME living in tents and humping goats 1400 yrs later
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:32 pm to Pettifogger
quote:So when all the randoms are added up to be well in excess of those identifiable as Islam, what are the practical, actionable takeaways from that?
I would say motivation for mass murder is more relevant than random attributes/identifiers about a perp that don't contribute to said mass murder, yes
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:34 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:OK. So what was the motivation of the Vegas shooter?
Well, yeah.
Why wouldn't it be?
Without motivation, the murder doesn't occur.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:36 pm to jrobic4
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Regardless of "validity", following the teaching of Christ has allowed W. Civ to flourish.
Following Allah's teachings has half the ME living in tents and humping goats 1400 yrs later
I'd think more than half, but tomato tomatoe.
I would think that even a large part of the ME that isn't living that, is only doing so because of Western influence. Would oil rich place like UAE, SA, etc be building cities like they have if it weren't for the need for oil by the West, making them very wealthy and having the money to "Keep up with the Jones from the West"?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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So when all the randoms are added up to be well in excess of those identifiable as Islam, what are the practical, actionable takeaways from that?
First, are they well in excess in terms of high profile murders? I won't argue that "murder" as a general crime far outpaces politically/religious/etc., motivated incidents. But then, the average American isn't at risk of everyday murder in the same manner (admittedly, both risks are metrically low).
Second, if we're sticking to things like mass shootings, bombings, etc. - the takeaway I believe is that Islam is a particularly strong motivator. I suspect that many people pulled into radical movements - especially to the point of suicidal involvement, probably have some other issues (mental health). But even if we accept that there is a mental health issue likely at play in most of these incidents, I don't think the other motivations are irrelevant. If people with suicidal/homicidal tendencies are drawn into radicalism, especially in their basement by themselves - that's something our society has to take note of.
And in recent history, Islam is the most consistent ideology that is taking people from inaction to murderous action.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:46 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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John Timothy Earnest shot up a synagogue and tried to burn down a mosque back in 2019.
Eric Mark Rudolph.
They are very few and far between.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:47 pm to texag7
Eric Robert Rudolph?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:47 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Yes? Do you have any stats to offer? "High profile murders" are rare to begin with.
First, are they well in excess in terms of high profile murders?
quote:I don't disagree with that. My question still stands, though: What is actually actionable based on this?
Second, if we're sticking to things like mass shootings, bombings, etc. - the takeaway I believe is that Islam is a particularly strong motivator. I suspect that many people pulled into radical movements - especially to the point of suicidal involvement, probably have some other issues (mental health). But even if we accept that there is a mental health issue likely at play in most of these incidents, I don't think the other motivations are irrelevant. If people with suicidal/homicidal tendencies are drawn into radicalism, especially in their basement by themselves - that's something our society has to take note of.
And in recent history, Islam is the most consistent ideology that is taking people from inaction to murderous action.
These events are extremely rare. I think it's a wild goose chase to pretend there is some "solution" here.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:48 pm to texag7
Get rid of all of these stupid religions and the world will be a better place.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Or a wife.
He probably is the "wife"
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:53 pm to Pettifogger
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Singing hymns in an abortion clinic lobby is literal violence
I suppose we should be grateful. In the UK, all you have to do is say a silent prayer near one and you’re a terrorist.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Yes? Do you have any stats to offer? "High profile murders" are rare to begin with.
Do you? 3000 people on 9/11 is a pretty big number.
Unless we include "mass shootings" like 8 people shot in a gang war in Chicago, I bet it's not that dramatic a gap.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:10 pm to Nomadic Bengal
Religion overall is a positive for human kind and it's teachings do promote a moral code that is good for society
that said, two things can be true at the same time. Religion has been the cause for more wars over human history than any other political reason. that is just the truth. Evil people can radicalize anything the want and have chosen religion often
that said, two things can be true at the same time. Religion has been the cause for more wars over human history than any other political reason. that is just the truth. Evil people can radicalize anything the want and have chosen religion often
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:13 pm to fareplay
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Uh brother there’s a whole thing in Israel rn
Uh, brother, not started by Israel nor Christians. Try again soy boy.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:15 pm to OWLFAN86
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Ever hear of Northern Ireland ?
That conflict was not really about religion. Starting in the 1920s it was about property rights and self government. The religious aspect identified the two groups.
The Muslim terrorist thing is straight out of their bible. Killing the infidels is justified.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:17 pm to fareplay
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Uh brother there’s a whole thing in Israel rn
Neither Jews nor Palestinians are considered Christians. What are you talking about?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:17 pm to POTUS2024
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Muh kroosaydes
has nothing to do with this topic
it was a response to islamic invaders from 7th to 17th centuries killing christian pilgrims in holy land
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:18 pm to texag7
Atlanta Olympic Bomber
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:22 pm to OWLFAN86
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Ever hear of Northern Ireland ?
3k dead in what? 30 years?
islam kills that in 1 day.
terrible comparison.
inb4 muh no christian terror! hurr durr!
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.killed more civilians in two hours on September 11th (2977) than in the 26 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland (2236).
LINK
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Number of Troubles attacks from either side motivated by faith rather than politics/sectarianism:
I knew the pivot was coming
it's not real Christianity
No dumbass - faith wasn't the motivation.
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