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Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:39 am to 4cubbies
Correct
You see the retarded side of things as the right way.
You see the retarded side of things as the right way.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:39 am to 4cubbies
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Precisely.
Why do you avoid simple questions asked repeatedly of you?
Can you not answer?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:39 am to lake chuck fan
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The above doesn't exist as described above. Above is simply a progressive's perspective but that in no way affirms this is reality. It's simply making excuses. For the average person, we all face struggles and adversity. Life on life's terms.
So white men are not persecuted? It's just life? It seems like exceptions are made for the dominant demographic here. Like historically marginalized groups are looked at as if they have a leg up while the most powerful and wealthiest demographic is perceived to face systemic discrimination. I'm just trying to understand.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why do you avoid simple questions asked repeatedly of you?
Well there's 8 pages of posts, most of which I haven't read. And you're kind of an a-hole. I am not going out of my way to answer some antagonistic question from a poster who basically exclusively heckles people on this discussion board. You are interested in insults and gotchas, not actual discussions.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:43 am to 4cubbies
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Well there's 8 pages of posts
Stop lying. You avoid it like the plague. Youve been asked this question at least a dozen times and you always avoid it.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:44 am to Nosevens
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Is it possible that people are disadvantaged because of parents choices that become a mindset of the children? I
Sure, but how did the first set of parents get that mindset or make whatever choices you are alluding to? What factors were at play for the first generation?
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Without a stable environment that easier way likely will lead to another generation of people with no self worth sliding down into poverty. This is not an easy fix as it is ingrained into urban society. Education and family values are the only way out but you won’t find that other than rhetoric being slung around in voting seasons.
I agree.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
See how antagonistic and hostile you are?
I told you I haven't read most of the posts in this thread and you're berating me for not addressing a question at some point in this thread that I didn't see and don't care to mine for.
I told you I haven't read most of the posts in this thread and you're berating me for not addressing a question at some point in this thread that I didn't see and don't care to mine for.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:47 am to 4cubbies
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See how antagonistic and hostile you are?
Because youre horribly dishonest.
I respect people who are honest, not lying pseudo activists.
Is the 9-1 discrepancy for males/females incarcerated an injustice or not?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:51 am to Narax
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None of that entitles those who make bad decisions the right to take money from others.
Right, and I haven't argued that it does.
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I think Justice is when someones actions fit their reward/punishment.
That's awfully subjective.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:52 am to 4cubbies
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but how did the first set of parents get that mindset or make whatever choices you are alluding to? What factors were at play for the first generation?
What do you think has been the driving force behind the disintegration of the traditional black family?
We know that as late as the early 60's, the overwhelming majority of black children were born to 2 parent homes. What might have happened to cause that to precipitously decline?
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:57 am to Bard
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Justice is the principle of fairness and moral rightness, ensuring individuals receive what they are due based on their actions, rights, or societal norms.
Society has never been able to agree on what justice is, means or looks like, though. We've been dissecting is since Aristotle and Nicomachean Ethics - likely long before that, even.
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The ideas of fairness and moral rightness can be wildly subjective, so the idea of justice itself is founded on a constantly shifting ground of biases. Sometimes they align in enough people, sometimes they don't.
Yes.
quote:This is a fair criticism.
The problem for me is that once we start placing qualifiers in front of "justice" (social, structural, systemic, etc), it becomes even more subjective while the attempt at greater granularity lends it a false sense of concrete certitude.
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The predicate here is that Sandy deserves an affordable place to live. By saying someone "deserves" something, we're saying they have a right to it. Thus, by saying Sandy deserves a place to live we're really saying someone must be forced to provide Sandy a place to live which she can afford, regardless of what other opportunities the property owner may have for that property. At the very least, it's a statement that implies the property owner's rights are subservient to Sandy's wants/needs (assuming she has no other options for living accommodations).
My pushback is that this isn't specific to Sandy. I believe the argument is that everyone deserves a place to live which they can afford. I understand that's in conflict with our economic system, but that's how I understood the argument.
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It says nothing about any choices Sandy may have made which placed her in a situation where her housing options are limited.
My understanding is that humans deserve affordable housing, even if they had a baby out of wedlock or made other choices some people would disapprove of.
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I always appreciate your posts.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:59 am to LCA131
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What do you think has been the driving force behind the disintegration of the traditional black family?
The government.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Is the 9-1 discrepancy for males/females incarcerated an injustice or not?
Also, is it an injustice that young unmarried males pay higher car insurance than young unmarried females?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:00 pm to 4cubbies
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Is the 9-1 discrepancy for males/females incarcerated an injustice or not?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:00 pm to 4cubbies
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The government.
Ok. Do you trust the government to 'fix' it?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:01 pm to KCT
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I don't give a flip about the dynamic of upvotes versus downvotes, but when it's 109-0 that should tell you something.
Wait - are you suggesting my ideas are not popular here?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:02 pm to roadGator
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Also, is it an injustice that young unmarried males pay higher car insurance than young unmarried females?
She's either going to out herself as a liar or hypocrite. The incarceration discrepancy is an injustice according to her when race is involved. Just now when gender is involved.
Thats objectively idiotic.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:05 pm to UtahCajun
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I thought woman's intuition told her to make better choices. Premise is false. Women instigate breakups far more than men. She should have made better choices.
Liberal woman logic- “If only I could choose the father of my kids”
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:07 pm to UtahCajun
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Sandy is the cause of her own injustice. Single mother of 2. No man in sight. No wonder she is poor.
The correct answer.
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