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re: Teslas charging at a gas station...
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:31 pm to BiteMe2020
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:31 pm to BiteMe2020
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So government knows the "right direction"? Or is it just you?
I think that was sarcasm. I could be wrong.
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:34 pm to auggie
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I don’t want to overstate it, but there’s a moral problem there. You’re shifting pollution from a tailpipe, to a plant somewhere else.
Three card monty. People still fall for it.
Also, don't forget how much electricity is lost going from the power plant to the charging stations. Inefficient as hell compared to petroleum.
Petroleum suffers no transport loss.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:34 pm to Flats
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I think that was sarcasm. I could be wrong.
Every day, sarcasm gets harder and harder to tell from liberal reality.
It was sarcasm, but I can understand if dumb liberals - being victims of systemic racism - are confused.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:38 pm to i am dan
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And honestly with current emission standards for automobiles and power plants (reduced emissions, scrubbers, etc), there's not a whole lot of pollutants going into the air these days anywhere.
They just convert it to a solid form and go bury it someplace, or in the case of trucks, it's scattered down the side of the highway.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:41 pm to alphaandomega
Not that I have a dog in this fight currently, but why do people care what other people do with their money when it comes to this? My only complaint in the current ev movement is that the government shouldn’t be subsidizing any type of product...period. However, if the Tesla Cybertruck can get even close to the 500+ mile range and 30X cold rolled stainless monocoque construction and a million mile lifetime on the battery (to 80%) for $80k, hell I’d buy one. Not to save the planet, but because that’s a pretty good design improvement. I just don’t understand the butthurt.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:42 pm to i am dan
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Also, don't forget how much electricity is lost going from the power plant to the charging stations. Inefficient as hell compared to petroleum.
Petroleum suffers no transport loss.
That's easily solved with covering your 1/10th acre lot with 3 acres of solar panels. Why do you hate black people?
/sarcasm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:45 pm to Tesla
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the government shouldn’t be subsidizing any type of product...period. However, if the Tesla Cybertruck can get even close to the 500+ mile range and 30X cold rolled stainless monocoque construction and a million mile lifetime on the battery (to 80%) for $80k, hell I’d buy one. Not to save the planet, but because that’s a pretty good design improvement. I just don’t understand the butthurt.
Do you think that truck will be that cheap without government subsidy? Let the market decide the fate of EVs.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:52 pm to Tesla
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Not to save the planet, but because that’s a pretty good design improvement. I just don’t understand the butthurt.
There's an odd misconception that the only reason peopll would buy a Tesla is for environmental reasons. I have no doubt that's why some people buy them, but certainly not everybody. An ER doc I know just bought one because he rode in a friend's and loved it. He's a borderline survivalist type, lots of guns, and he already had some property in the boonies outfitted with a trailer and solar panels/battery banks because power was stupid expensive to run out to it. In addition to just loving the car he liked the idea of having transportation if there's a gas shortage/major power outage.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:56 pm to auggie
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Do you think that truck will be that cheap without government subsidy? Let the market decide the fate of EVs.
They might. When the Cybertruck was announced, Tesla was no longer eligible for per-vehicle subsidies. Their new manufacturing format is damned impressive. As you said, though, let the market decide.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:04 pm to Tesla
I don’t think anybody hates Tesla. And I don’t think the people dislike his vehicles. I would love to have one and if I could find one around $20,000 I would buy it.
I am also a big fan of the hybrid which makes more sense to me.
I was just postulating on the people sitting at the charging station. If I owned one I might be that person if the charge was free.
Question : can a Prius and Tesla be charged the same way?
ETA: I wonder how insurance will apply from accidents and the cost to repair and the battery acid all over the place
I am also a big fan of the hybrid which makes more sense to me.
I was just postulating on the people sitting at the charging station. If I owned one I might be that person if the charge was free.
Question : can a Prius and Tesla be charged the same way?
ETA: I wonder how insurance will apply from accidents and the cost to repair and the battery acid all over the place
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:07 pm to dafif
Nope, Prius aren’t a plug in hybrid. I did look at a Honda Insight hybrid for a commuter (100 miles a day). >50 mpg is a great design, too. Still get ~500 miles per tank. It’s just that the tank is only 10 gallons.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:11 pm to Tesla
Good to see TESLA in the Tesla thread
LoL
LoL
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:14 pm to dafif
Yeah, my handle has nothing to do with the company, though. I’m a Nikola Tesla fan. 
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:18 pm to AMS
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It takes like 20 mins for 80% charge.
It amazes me that some people are content with going backward. Sounds pretty damn REgressive to me.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:26 pm to joshnorris14
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Also, Tesla's vehicles are, by far, more technologically impressive than why other mass produced car on the market. People who don't "get" them should go to a show room and request to drive one of the P100Ds. They will encourage you to use ludicrous plus mode and you will quickly "get" it
I have ludicrous mode in my ICE car it's called a Whipple and runs on eco friendly fuels and would pass inspections with no cats. Why would I need a 100k dollar battery car when that setup is half the cost and makes as much power as I want? From what I hear once you mod a tesla you get banned from their charging stations. The Govt is threatening the car racing industry right now which is a multi-billion dollar industry and employs tons of americans in the name of green energy. Which makes no sense since most vin'ed race cars run the same eco friendly fuels. Alot of the EV pushback stems from that it's not because people hate technology, it's because they are trying to destroy yet another industry in the name of Green Energy.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:27 pm to dafif
This thread has as much ignorance and stupidity as the Q thread
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:37 pm to lsu480
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This thread has as much ignorance and stupidity as the Q thread
Only if you're promoting Tesla.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:40 pm to Tesla
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Not that I have a dog in this fight currently, but why do people care what other people do with their money when it comes to this?
Because government dictates that they tax me to pay for your Tesla.
Pretty fricking simple. I don't want to pay for your shite. You aren't paying for mine.
Buy your Tesla. Enjoy it. Just don't ask me to pay for it. You didn't chip in to help me buy your truck with a $7,500 rebate.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:57 pm to BiteMe2020
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Because government dictates that they tax me to pay for your Tesla.
Pretty sure Tesla has run out of those credits. Also, its a tax rebate, meaning you must have the tax liability to offset against. The government isn't giving anyone money directly.
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Pretty fricking simple. I don't want to pay for your shite. You aren't paying for mine.
Government bail outs, tax breaks for car manufacturers, oil and gas E&P, transportation, generations, etc. The EV credits are just easy to see. Everything is subsidized. Which is fricked up, but its the truth.
In my opinion all of that shite should go away and let the market decide. But the government has a long history of incentivizing new technology to drive innovation. Whether or not it works, that's a different debate but its not isolated to EVs.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 2:36 pm to dafif
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And your blowing smoke out of ur arse if you think your getting 80%charge in 20 min.
My inlaws have one. It's true. 20 minutes on a high voltage charger will get it to 80%. Not through your standard garage NEMA 5-15 connection, but on the good chargers, they charge very quickly.
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