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re: The dad knew Ahmaud previously
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:43 am to the808bass
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:43 am to the808bass
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But they didn’t have that either.
I don't know what "within his immediate knowledge" means, so I can't agree with your statement. Hoping someone can define that for me.
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:44 am to Tri City Tigers
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One redneck*
All three will eventually be charged in this I am certain...
Show poor judgement at best on their part...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:44 am to RollTide1987
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other cell phone evidence
There's other cell phone video??
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:45 am to imjustafatkid
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"within his immediate knowledge"
I would ask the lawyer in the thread but he seems to have already made up his mind on the case
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:45 am to imjustafatkid
I just don’t see how they’re going to convict the guy of murder when the fatal shots were fired with 4 hands on the gun pulling in different directions.
Not that I agree with the manner in which they handled the situation at all.
Not that I agree with the manner in which they handled the situation at all.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:46 am to imjustafatkid
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I agree. They weren't doing that
The video shows the guy behind the truck pointing a gun. But the guy simply holding the gun, chasing him, and yelling at him is guilty of aggravated assault...at least he could be.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
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The DA says they did. Which is why he initially didn't press charges. Why else do you think they were chasing after this guy and why else do you think we have this cell phone video? They had reason to believe this man committed a crime.
And the DA lied. “Reason to believe” isn’t good enough for a citizens arrest. “Fitting the description” isn’t good enough for a citizens arrest.
And even if they could have been justified with a citizens arrest (it currently appears they weren’t), a citizens arrest doesn’t justify violence in detaining someone.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:47 am to RollTide1987
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if they had reasonable suspicion that he committed a felony
Pretty sure "immediate knowledge" is going to be a higher burden than "reasonable suspicion"
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The trial will sort this all out. I just thank the Lord in heaven that we have a justice system that isn't based on mob rule.
It's too bad the father and son didn't feel this way as well
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:47 am to Dawgfanman
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The video shows the guy behind the truck pointing a gun.
I guess I'm seeing something different. I see him have to bend over to get his gun after the altercation has already started. It seems very obvious to me.
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But the guy simply holding the gun, chasing him, and yelling at him is guilty of aggravated assault.
I agree that this is a possibility
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:48 am to imjustafatkid
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It doesn't though.
You may want to make an appointment with an eye doc.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:48 am to the808bass
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a citizens arrest doesn’t justify violence in detaining someone.
the guy charged at one of the arrestors and threw hands. The violence wasn’t initiated by the father/son. The video makes that pretty clear Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:49 am to The Pirate King
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I just don’t see how they’re going to convict the guy of murder when the fatal shots were fired with 4 hands on the gun pulling in different directions.
Not that I agree with the manner in which they handled the situation at all.
I agree with this. I think charging any of them with murder would end with acquittal.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:49 am to ShortyRob
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And but one more reason to realize that we don't know all we need to know about this case yet
One thing is for certain. Crimes he committed years ago have not a single fricking thing to do with whether or not he should be ambushed and shot by these morons.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:49 am to imjustafatkid
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I guess I'm seeing something different. I see him have to bend over to get his gun after the altercation has already started. It seems very obvious to me.
Can you agree that having two guys in a truck following you, yelling at you, while armed would put you in fear of imminent violence or attack?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:50 am to Caplewood
When someone has a gun pointed at you, they’ve initiated the situation.
If Ahmaud had a gun, using your justification and the DA’s, he could have shot the father and son. And he would’ve been “standing his ground.”
If Ahmaud had a gun, using your justification and the DA’s, he could have shot the father and son. And he would’ve been “standing his ground.”
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:50 am to Powerman
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ambushed
Did not happen.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to Caplewood
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the guy charged at one of the arrestors and threw hands. The violence wasn’t initiated by the father/son. The video makes that pretty clear
They were committing aggravated assault and Ahmaud was defending himself.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to imjustafatkid
Don’t try to get all careful with words now. You claimed Ahmaud ran through his high school with a gun.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to imjustafatkid
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I don't know what "within his immediate knowledge" means, so I can't agree with your statement. Hoping someone can define that for me.
Means you have to be pretty crystal fricking clear that you witnessed someone committing a felony right in front of you
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to the808bass
They didn’t have guns pointed at him when he charged at them around the truck
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