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re: The Derrick Todd Lee story on HLN program: Murder Nation
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:08 pm to Dixierebel
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:08 pm to Dixierebel
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I had to care for DTL in the cath lab for his Defibrillator placement. This was when we first started doing them and they were super expensive. He was a scary Mofo and He had 4 officers with him at all times.
I spent 6 hours with him alone in a small room at EBR Parish Prison, guard just outside the door of course. Cognitive and psych testing.
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Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:20 pm to PsychTiger
You got locked in a room with him and had to give him a sharp object. You really suffer for your science!
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:28 pm to Drizzt
Probably deleted by now but McDavid made a fb post about the upcoming broadcast and Pat Englade commented to the post about how the task force got a bad rap boo hoo hoo. Not surprising.
I can still recall the task force press conference announcing DTL and how they spent an egregious amount of time patting themselves on the back. It was repulsive.
I can still recall the task force press conference announcing DTL and how they spent an egregious amount of time patting themselves on the back. It was repulsive.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:43 pm to Nephropidae
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Have you ever considered using punctuation? It's interesting stuff but my god you need to up your writing game.
Lighten up. Taking issue with grammar and punctuation on an internet message board when the message is perfectly understandable is the height of douchiness.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:03 pm to EA6B
We must know the same people EA6B
Posted on 6/20/21 at 7:28 pm to tigerbait3488
quote:I don’t want to go into details, but I once knew a lot of people working in radiology, I’m guessing you might have been in infusion services.
We must know the same people EA6B
Posted on 6/20/21 at 7:30 pm to titmouse
[quote]I can still recall the task force press conference announcing DTL and how they spent an egregious amount of time patting themselves on the back. It was repulsive.[/quote
At the time I couldn’t believe it, they acted like they actually solved the case.
At the time I couldn’t believe it, they acted like they actually solved the case.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:04 pm to SammyTiger
Didn’t the task force and FBI basically laugh off the idea that DNA could identify someone by race and physical characteristics? Until the private genetics firm begged them to let them run the killer’s DNA?
Though I followed the case closely, it’s hard to remember the exact sequence of events, but the TF was proven wrong and things picked up quickly after that. Wasn’t there an Attorney General’s investigator who was also involved, getting a subpoena for DTL’s DNA sample, instead of a harder to get search warrant?
To think now DNA ethnicity estimates are a billion dollar industry but back then the government swore up and down that racial characteristics couldn’t be determined by genetic testing. As if somehow everyone’s genetic code was identical and skin, hair and eye color was random happenstance.
Though I followed the case closely, it’s hard to remember the exact sequence of events, but the TF was proven wrong and things picked up quickly after that. Wasn’t there an Attorney General’s investigator who was also involved, getting a subpoena for DTL’s DNA sample, instead of a harder to get search warrant?
To think now DNA ethnicity estimates are a billion dollar industry but back then the government swore up and down that racial characteristics couldn’t be determined by genetic testing. As if somehow everyone’s genetic code was identical and skin, hair and eye color was random happenstance.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:07 pm to Dixierebel
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I had to care for DTL in the cath lab for his Defibrillator placement. This was when we first started doing them and they were super expensive. He was a scary Mofo and He had 4 officers with him at all times. Pissed me off cause we paid for that to keep him alive on death row. Karma is a bitch and he died in prison not long after.
Too bad y’all couldn’t give him some shocks, just to make the SOB tell where Randi Mebreuer and Mary Anne Fowler lie unmarked.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:52 pm to oldskule
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He killed my friend Murray.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:04 pm to lachellie
Read my post. James Piler from the AG’s office assisted David McDavid with getting the subpoena for DTL’s DNA. At the time, the scientific majority thought that DNA could NOT indicate race. Pretty silly if you think about it, but at a time the leading scientists thought the Earth was the center of solar system and flat. What’s a known scientific fact today is a silly thought a few years later. The private group suggested the killer was African American. Outside of Piker and David, no one took it seriously until the lady from St Martin survived , the DNA matched the killer and she and her son ID’ed him as African American.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:31 pm to lachellie
I did shock him alright , twice
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:45 pm to Dixierebel
my MIL worked in the medical ward at Angola, she knew DTL well. said he was a weird guy, personable sometimes, but quiet and distant others. she said he didnt talk much, but when he did he was not smart, just country dumb. some how he got really fat at angola and his heart gave out
my wife lived in a rent house two doors down from gillis on bergin, she said their house was a mess, he never cut his grass. my wife knew his wife, the one who worked at the circle k on lee
my wife lived in a rent house two doors down from gillis on bergin, she said their house was a mess, he never cut his grass. my wife knew his wife, the one who worked at the circle k on lee
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:45 pm to RetiredTiger
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What is the title of the Derrick Lee episode? I missed it and cannot find it airing again.
Murder Nation
Episode 1 Southern Harm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:22 pm to Dixierebel
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I did shock him alright , twice
Wish I could have been there
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:31 pm to michael corleone
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Read my post. James Piler from the AG’s office assisted David McDavid with getting the subpoena for DTL’s DNA. At the time, the scientific majority thought that DNA could NOT indicate race. Pretty silly if you think about it, but at a time the leading scientists thought the Earth was the center of solar system and flat. What’s a known scientific fact today is a silly thought a few years later. The private group suggested the killer was African American. Outside of Piker and David, no one took it seriously until the lady from St Martin survived , the DNA matched the killer and she and her son ID’ed him as African American.
I’ll never believe that forensic experts and molecular biologists didn’t entertain the idea that DNA could reveal physical and racial characteristics. But it wasn’t the PC thing to do or say. It seems not much had changed in twenty odd years except personal DNA testing became big business.
If memory serves, there was a serial rapist in some Virginia college town not too long after the DTL case was solved. LE was asking for samples from AA men because that’s what the forensics revealed, that the perp was AA. There was an outcry of racism ??.
But back to DTL . . . There was an East Feliciana teacher, whom DTL would have known. She was found stabbed to death in her home when DTL would have been under 18. Anyone have information about that?
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