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re: The return of manufacturing through tariffs is fantasy
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:34 pm to Perfect Circle
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:34 pm to Perfect Circle
Learn before you type....
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:35 pm to tide06
quote:
Thanks to the tariffs we are between steps 2-3 with most of the projects that were agreed to.
Name me 5 factories with chosen locations.
Name me 5 factories with broken ground.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:43 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Trump should focus on 25 year old guys who live in cities with non-American city councils who can't buy a home or get a life started.
You could say that is exactly what he is doing by creating jobs here instead of overseas via "fixing" the unfair trade that has been going on. And he is fixing it with Tariffs.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:48 pm to j1897
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Name me 5 factories with chosen locations
Why should I bother?
You’ll just continue deflecting and moving the goalposts in the face of obvious and reasonable facts that undermine your entire premise.
1.
Chobani Dairy Processing Plant
Company: Chobani
Location: Rome, New York
2.
Hyundai Steel Plant
Company: Hyundai Motor Group?Location: Louisiana
3.
Apple Advanced Manufacturing Facility
Company: Apple
Location: Houston, Texas
4.
Roche Gene Therapy Manufacturing Facility
Company: Roche
Location: Pennsylvania
5. Merck Pharmaceutical Center
Company: Merck
Location: Elkton, Virginia
Those 5 alone represent over $550B in investments alone.
Based on official White House announcements, corporate disclosures, and independent reporting as of November 18, 2025, the total committed investment exceeds $8 trillion while others have it at $2-3 trillion.
Between ~$100-200 billion in actual 2025 spending to date has already taken place per official sources.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:52 pm to Perfect Circle
Perfectly stupid, not perfect circle.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:55 pm to Perfect Circle
quote:
Why pretend?
Did you overdo yourself on drugs during college?
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:04 pm to tide06
#1 Chobani
Tariffs had nothing to do with the announcement of a new dairy processing plant. I'm not even reading the rest of your post. I'm guessing this is AI? A smart person would have put that one last, you just invalidated your entire argument from the get go.
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Tariffs had nothing to do with the announcement of a new dairy processing plant. I'm not even reading the rest of your post. I'm guessing this is AI? A smart person would have put that one last, you just invalidated your entire argument from the get go.
LINK
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:07 pm to j1897
I named 5 plants that have announced locations under Trumps presidency.
If I name 5 more it won’t change your mind because you’re just looking for cheap outs to justify a position that’s obviously not objectively supportable.
If I name 5 more it won’t change your mind because you’re just looking for cheap outs to justify a position that’s obviously not objectively supportable.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:13 pm to Perfect Circle
quote:
Why pretend
Please expound on your well thought out answer as to why it is a fantasy.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, Vance is not going to continue this tariff policy. Hes far more about sound economics than Trump.
I have zero doubt he will drop most of the tariffs.
He won't have to. Trump will drop them himself. He's already started.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:44 pm to j1897
quote:Wait until he finds out who owns Chobani and. their politics
Chobani
Hell man, his estimates are low. I pledged a trillion dollars last week. Hell I might do it again in a few hours.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:59 pm to j1897
quote:
Name me 5 factories with chosen locations.
Name me 5 factories with broken ground.
GE Appliances
Tariffs pushed GE to commit $3 billion to U.S. factories across five states. They said straight up: building here makes more sense under the tariff structure. That’s reshoring in real time.
Roche Pharmaceuticals
Roche is putting $50 billion into U.S. manufacturing so it doesn’t get hit by drug import tariffs. They want to export from the U.S. instead of import into it. That’s how powerful tariff pressure is.
Stanley Black & Decker
They shifted tool production back from China to Texas and North Carolina because tariffs and supply-chain risk made U.S. production the smarter move. They literally said tariffs changed the math.
Whirlpool
When the washer tariffs hit, Whirlpool expanded their big plant in Clyde, Ohio and hired more workers. Their executives praised the tariff because it made domestic production competitive again.
LG Electronics
After U.S. washer tariffs, LG accelerated and expanded production at their Clarksville, Tennessee plant. They admitted in their own filings that tariffs forced a U.S. shift in capacity.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:17 pm to Perfect Circle
Well what better plan to re-shore our vital manufacturing do have?
We have to try, because if we don’t we will get caught with our pants down when it gets real real.
USA got hooked on the drug of cheap imports, so of course the withdrawals are going to suck, but the alternative is eventual decline and death.
We have to try, because if we don’t we will get caught with our pants down when it gets real real.
USA got hooked on the drug of cheap imports, so of course the withdrawals are going to suck, but the alternative is eventual decline and death.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:19 pm to RiverCityTider
quote:Closed in 2023.
Stanley Black & Decker
They shifted tool production back from China to Texas
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:20 pm to RiverCityTider
They don’t care, it’s all cognitive dissonance on their part because OMB.
They started by saying it’s a fantasy so we quoted trillions in commitments.
So then they say it hasn’t been spent so it shown that $250B+ has already been spent and trillions of other deals are in process of being executed.
Then they quoted declines in short term production so we explained that the factories take years to come online.
Then they said well they haven’t even chosen sites yet so I pull 5 examples as he asks and he tries to nitpick what’s tariff related or not when there are 20 others that are in process with permits or selecting vendors for expansion work on existing sites.
I’m not even going to bother showing the companies restarting domestic production that had been offshored already to avoid the tariffs like Stellantis and Volvo.
It’s like watching a bad football team play soft zone defense and give up 15 yards a play while still talking trash as they give up a touchdown.
They started by saying it’s a fantasy so we quoted trillions in commitments.
So then they say it hasn’t been spent so it shown that $250B+ has already been spent and trillions of other deals are in process of being executed.
Then they quoted declines in short term production so we explained that the factories take years to come online.
Then they said well they haven’t even chosen sites yet so I pull 5 examples as he asks and he tries to nitpick what’s tariff related or not when there are 20 others that are in process with permits or selecting vendors for expansion work on existing sites.
I’m not even going to bother showing the companies restarting domestic production that had been offshored already to avoid the tariffs like Stellantis and Volvo.
It’s like watching a bad football team play soft zone defense and give up 15 yards a play while still talking trash as they give up a touchdown.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:19 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:What is a "deal" other than a commitment for 2 parties to do something? You want all of the investment that has been "committed" to be accomplished in 6 months? Your TDS really needs to be treated. Send me that address so I can send you your package.
The vast majority of what you are lumping in there are commitments to invest.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:31 am to Perfect Circle
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Why pretend?
Let me tell you plainly: it will happen, because it is already happening. And it will be permanent, even if political winds shift later.
Why? The manufacturing returning to the U.S. isn’t coming back on the backs of millions of workers. It’s coming back on robots, automation, and highly capitalized production lines. Once a company has spent hundreds of millions (or billions) to install those systems, the capital is sunk. They are not going to rip them out and revert to low-skill mass labor just because wages overseas drop a little or some future administration changes a tariff. The economics no longer work that way. The machines stay, the jobs don’t come back in the old numbers, and the new reality is locked in for decades.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:54 am to trinidadtiger
Just wanted to add that indeed the dems get back in power, not only will they take credit, but there is no way they'll stop this new massive revenue stream. I'm wondering if USSC stops the tariffs, would the legislature jump on it and approve some tariffs?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:55 am to Perfect Circle
Toyota's $912M Investment in US manufacturing
quote:
Toyota Boosts Hybrid Production with
$912 Million Investment Creating
252 New U.S. Manufacturing Jobs
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:57 am to Perfect Circle
Seems like you are pretending given the massive influx in US Investment.
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