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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:19 am to loogaroo
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Know how the I the tariffs are good for the American people?
Unfortunately in the real world globalists being mad doesn't guarantee a positive outcome for the United States or advance any American first agenda.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:20 am to NashvilleTider
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lol if you think he will keep these tariffs for long. It’s a negotiation tool.
So you agree that Tariffs are economically idiotic at this point.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:22 am to NashvilleTider
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lol if you think he will keep these tariffs for long. It’s a negotiation tool.
He has to "keep" the threat of them as a long term play. Whether particular ones are in effect or not is irrelevant.
This is (or should be) a long term plan, not just some short term play.
His whole thing seems to be about wanting American companies (and foreign ones) to manufacture things here again and create American jobs. It will take years to make that happen. That was my point.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:23 am to BuckeyeGoon
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When did he say "rural" red states? A state can be red and not rural.
Because typically red states are far more rural and have less population or population centers. As those population centers grow states become less red as well....
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:24 am to SDVTiger
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:26 am to Northwestern tiger
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No one knows how it will turn out.
He might end up being seen as a genius — or he might go down the toilet
Based on Trumps record, why would anyone doubt him??
Whats the option?? Continue down the same path we've been on?? Allowing the multinational corporations to buy Congress and continue to destroy whats left Americas middle class???
If you voted for Trump, you knew exactly what he was going to do, so shut your whining, pathetic, mouths and lets see what happens.
For those who have TDS and didn't vote for Trump.... must suck to be you!
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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lol if you think he will keep these tariffs for long. It’s a negotiation tool.
So you agree that Tariffs are economically idiotic at this point.
Trump will do whats best for America. He will do exactly what he said he would do. One thing I am absolutely sire about, Trump and his team know more about economics than any of these TDS infected people on a message board.
Folks, stop believing the propaganda. Everything they told us before the election was a lie, nothing has changed. Good times ahead.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:31 am to lake chuck fan
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Trump will do whats best for America. H
We love our central planning dont we folks?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
At some point you need to just go smoke some weed or have a beer
Your constant stupid is annoy9ng
Your constant stupid is annoy9ng
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:33 am to Pandy Fackler
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Maybe, but I tend to think keeping the border closed and keeping us out of corporate foreign wars will make or break his Presidency.
He can always take the loss and back off this tariff shite, but if he loses control of that border or takes us to war, then he'll be viewed as a tremendous failure.
Agree. Securing the border and deportation of illegals were front and center throughout the campaign. Hiccups there would be a disaster, hence the current efforts of the leftist/globalists.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:36 am to Northwestern tiger
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No one knows how it will turn out. He might end up being seen as a genius — or he might go down the toilet.
Very decisive. Do you conduct then rest of your life this way? 10/10. Please post more.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:41 am to wackatimesthree
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So all of the talk about repatriating manufacturing was BS, then?
No, there will still be tariffs, but we will work with people who benefit us. People who don't probably won't be much wiggle room. We are dependent on China right now, we have to get out of that situation. If we are going to keep our status as a world power we have to claw that back. This is the way.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:44 am to Northwestern tiger
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No one knows how it will turn out.
He might end up being seen as a genius — or he might go down the toilet.
Trump's tariff policies being a rousing success or dismal failure will depend on two primary factors.
One being the patience of the American people. The American people need to give Team Trump's policies 12-16 months to yield positive results for the US economy and in turn the American people.
Two being the coordinated efforts of the Anti Trump Consortium (primarily US Corporatocracy and their DC Uniparty Globalist partners) to thwart Team Trump's efforts to resurrect the US industrial/manufacturing sector as the most productive and robust in the world.
Whatever the result Trump will go down in US history as the president who opposed the US Corporatocracy's globalist agenda in favor of fighting for street level, working class Americans while trying to rebuild the US economy in to a global industrial/manufacturing powerhouse.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:44 am to wackatimesthree
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So all of the talk about repatriating manufacturing was BS, then? Because if what you predict happens, that won't. We will literally have expanded NAFTA and Globalism. I personally am happy with that...but about 90% of this board regularly makes posts that indicate that they would not be.
Haven’t you realized by now that the tariffs are everything and nothing all at the same time?
We’re gonna bring manufacturing back because companies will avoid the tariffs while also making so much money on tariffs that we won’t pay income taxes. Don’t think about it too much and it will make more sense.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:50 am to oklahogjr
7 of the 10 most populous states voted for Trump. Texas and Florida are 2 of the top 3 most populated states in the country and are deep red. The idea that there isnt population centers in red states is just flat out retarded. Many red states in the south and midwest have the populations to support a manufacturing base.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:51 am to Northwestern tiger
He’s a moron crashing the market. Everything else is great but this is retard level decision.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:34 pm to lake chuck fan
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He will do exactly what he said he would do
Does that mean he will bring manufacturing back to America or that he will get other countries to drop their tariffs?
Because he's said both, but if one of them happens, the other won't.
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One thing I am absolutely sire about, Trump and his team know more about economics than any of these TDS infected people on a message board.
I'm sure that's true as well, but when he claims he will do two opposing things that any 10th grader should be able to tell can't both happen, and we agree that he knows more about economics than the average person, the only final conclusion from that observation is that he is lying to you and playing you.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:04 pm to Hitman67
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No, there will still be tariffs, but we will work with people who benefit us.
O.k., but there have been several countries (albeit small ones) saying that they will drop their tariffs over the past few days and every time one is announced, people cheer and say, "See the tariffs worked!"
Surely you're not saying that you think that they will drop their tariffs and we will still keep ours against them?
I think you're saying that some will capitulate and drop their tariffs and some won't, and the ones that won't will represent manufacturing coming back to America as Trump dugs in and punishes their imports even more.
Fair enough, I guess, but are you then saying that we win either way?
It seems strange to claim that because if you are an anti-Globalist who thinks it's bad that American manufacturing jobs left the country following NAFTA, you'd interpret any furtherance of expanding free trade in that manner a loss. So everyone "who will work with us" should represent a defeat to you.
If you're that person (and your comment about China seems to indicate that you are), you want to see everyone tell Trump to go screw and refuse to import any American products at all (like the EU is considering doing). That would be a victory if that's your philosophy. Because that is what would bring manufacturing back to America (and raise prices).
The problem with divesting ourselves of dependence on China is that their factory worker makes somewhere between a third and a fourth of what our average factory worker makes here.
Sure, we can make the stuff they make for us now, but not for the same price or anywhere near it.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:08 pm to Northwestern tiger
I think this is correct as well. I’ve read as much as I can possibly read about it from both sides and I honestly have no idea how it’s going to work out.
There’s a great podcast from the All In guys Where they interviewed the secretary of the treasury, and that gave me hope that they would work.
But other credible sources, I trust, like Thomas Sowell are not fans of the strategy.
I’m praying that it works out because I sure as hell do not want to swing back to Wokeville.
There’s a great podcast from the All In guys Where they interviewed the secretary of the treasury, and that gave me hope that they would work.
But other credible sources, I trust, like Thomas Sowell are not fans of the strategy.
I’m praying that it works out because I sure as hell do not want to swing back to Wokeville.
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