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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:40 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:40 pm to the808bass
Where are they pointing? I don't see it in the video and it's not mentioned in the police report.
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:40 pm to Turbeauxdog
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The Hannah cause?
No. The Winn Dixie citizens arrest case in Georgia.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:41 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Stefan called Ahmaud “handsome” in the first minute of the video.
I’d like an apology from everybody on here who mocked me for saying the same thing last week.
In cases like this these things are an important part of the narrative - realistically and subconsciously. The two white guys are a mess and overweight and Ahmaud was healthy and fit and that’s been an important part of the way this story has been consumed.
I’d like an apology from everybody on here who mocked me for saying the same thing last week.
In cases like this these things are an important part of the narrative - realistically and subconsciously. The two white guys are a mess and overweight and Ahmaud was healthy and fit and that’s been an important part of the way this story has been consumed.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:42 pm to Korkstand
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What other defense would you recommend? That's basically all they have.
That’s pretty much the point. Those 2 goobers are indefensible. There was no justifiable reason for tater and Jr to go on a vigilante spree for a crime they had no knowledge of.
Their only defense doesnt match up to reality. Police investigation of arbery was for misdemeanor trespassing, doesnt meet citizens arrest. Also McMichael’s had no direct or immediate knowledge of the crime according to himself at the time, he saw someone running and went to confront him because there were break ins recently, also fails to meet citizens arrest.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:42 pm to Music_City_Tiger
There is only one certainty in this matter. Ahmaud's parents and Al Sharpton are going to make a lot of money.....
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:42 pm to G The Tiger Fan
The assault was the first major crime committed.
The assault was committed by the father and son. The black dude was defending himself.
The assault was committed by the father and son. The black dude was defending himself.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:42 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:As has been explained to you multiple times, blockading a road while displaying a weapon is "brandishing".
People keep saying the McMichaels were "brandishing" a gun, "pointing" a gun, "attacking" with a gun. Where are people seeing this? Is there some other video showing this or some other police report stating this?
The purpose of the gun was to intimidate, instill fear, or otherwise "persuade" the victim into complying with demands.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:43 pm to G The Tiger Fan
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Chasing after a guy, telling him that they want him to stop so they can talk to him.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:44 pm to the808bass
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It doesn’t have to be an occupied dwelling for a B&E to occur.
Well yea, B&E only says that a closed building was broken into. It doesn't have to even be a dwelling, it could be a business, or just a building that's under construction but locked up.
Until the criteria is met, I don't think that's a dwelling though. And if it did meet the criteria of a dwelling, what's the purpose of an occupancy license?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:44 pm to Korkstand
That's what they said they did in the police report.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:45 pm to Korkstand
That’s right because the only other theory out there is flat out murder because they got their guns, pursued another person with those guns, said they wanted to talk to him, one of them exits the truck with the shotgun, Arbery attacks per this confrontation, and he shoots him dead. There is literally no stand your ground defense they can assert since they were the ones with guns WHO INSTIGATED THIS against someone who was unarmed and THEY WEREN’T COPS.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:45 pm to Azkiger
quote:Aggravated assault was committed the instant he blocked the public road while holding a weapon to prevent the victim from proceeding. He only made it worse by changing his position in response to the victim's attempt to evade.
True, did they though? The truck blocks the most important second or two of the encounter.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:47 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:It's because an attempted citizen's arrest is literally the only logical way to try to defend what they were doing. If they weren't doing that, then it looks like straight up terrorism.
I'm not recommending a defense. I'm just asking how "citizen's arrest" all of a sudden became the buzz term here.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:47 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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There is literally no stand your ground defense they can assert since they were the ones with guns against someone who was unarmed and THEY WEREN’T COPS.
If they were attempting a legal citizen's arrest they can still claim stand your ground. You don't forfeit your right to self defense/stand your ground if you're operating within the law.
I'm not saying they had a legal right to make a citizen's arrest, just that the outcome of this seems to hinge on that one fact.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:48 pm to Korkstand
You realize assault means physical attack right? That was Ahmaud who charged the guy and grabbed the barrel of the gun. Standing there trying to perform a citizens arrest without touching the kid isn’t an assault.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:48 pm to Korkstand
100%, murder, terrorism, stalking it all blends if we remove the citizen’s arrest element from the equation
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:49 pm to Azkiger
100% but the facts are not in their favor as it stands
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:49 pm to FlexDawg
No it doesn’t that’s misstating the law
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:49 pm to Azkiger
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If they were attempting a legal citizen's arrest they can still claim stand your ground. You don't forfeit your right to self defense/stand your ground if you're operating within the law.
It gets a lot more dicey. Because then you can initiate the confrontation and also end it “in self defense.” It justifies any action and I don’t think that the law gets excited about putting civilians in situations where they can do anything and be “justified.”
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:50 pm to Korkstand
quote:Well, I'm sure the media will try to get them charged with that also.
If they weren't doing that, then it looks like straight up terrorism.
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