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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by mays
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:46 pm to
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Truthful video.
Citizens arrest is not unlawful.


Wrong. They did not witness a crime.

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.


https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-17/chapter-4/article-4/17-4-60/

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:46 pm to
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When they stop in the road, the deceased is clearly shown running toward the truck, and therefore the armed men.


So?
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:47 pm to
The pop was former LEO and had past dealings with the deceased in this case. It's all admissible and the Trial will be in Glynn county so, watch and see.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:47 pm to
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The pop was former LEO and had past dealings with the deceased in this case. It's all admissible and the Trial will be in Glynn county so, watch and see.


Okey dokey.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:48 pm to
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Maybe, but are you coming from the perspective that you also just committed a crime? I can’t fathom a world where standing still until the police arrive to slap you on the wrist is not highly preferable to attacking two armed men, hoping that you overpower the first so quickly that you kill or escape from the second before he shoots you.


You are assuming the crime warranted a citizens arrest, which it did not. Misdemeanor trespassing isnt a felony. So its more like defending yourself against aggravated assault Or being victimized by aggravated assault.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:49 pm to
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The pop was former LEO and had past dealings with the deceased in this case. It's all admissible and the Trial will be in Glynn county so, watch and see.



Aaaand? You cant citizens arrest someone for past dealings. That’s idiotic.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:50 pm to
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It's all admissible


Rule 405 and 404 say nah
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:51 pm to
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They have the right to, which you hate


No, they don't. Georgia law is pretty clear. I know you'd rather spout off rather than understand, though.


https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-17/chapter-4/article-4/17-4-60/
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:52 pm to
We had one poster arguing that it was a good shoot because people in Arbery’s family were in trouble with the law.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:53 pm to
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So?


So by all appearances from that point on, the dead guy was the aggressor, not the guys with the guns. It certainly appears the deceased initiated the physical confrontation that resulted in his own death.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:55 pm to
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It certainly appears the deceased initiated the physical confrontation that resulted in his own death.


So Arbery made McMichaels double back around, stop, block the road with his truck, get out of the truck and move to intercept him as Arbery ran up the passenger side of the truck? That’s a powerful mind on that Arbery man.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:55 pm to
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So by all appearances from that point on, the dead guy was the aggressor, not the guys with the guns.


He was being chased from behind by an armed man if you missed that part
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:55 pm to
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Wrong. They did not witness a crime.


Well, you are ignoring part of the definition, aren’t you? Why? Not saying this person was correct in what he did, but the law does not only say it must be witnessed, as you quoted, correct?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:56 pm to
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Not saying this person was correct in what he did, but the law does not only say it must be witnessed, as you quoted, correct?


Yeah. It does.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:56 pm to
They didn’t have immediate knowledge of a felony. They admit this in their statements to the police.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6535 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:57 pm to
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We had one poster arguing that it was a good shoot because people in Arbery’s family were in trouble with the law.


“JR, get your gun and hop in the truckbed, we goin round up people who broke into cars 2 months ago, if they make you nervous just blast em, well call it a citizens arrest”.

fricking yikes.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:57 pm to
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When they stop in the road, the deceased is clearly shown running toward the truck, and therefore the armed men.



That's a rather poor attempt to create a false context.

He wasn't running to them, he was already running in that direction when they placed themselves in his path and they did so to create the confrontation.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6535 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:59 pm to
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So by all appearances from that point on, the dead guy was the aggressor, not the guys with the guns. It certainly appears the deceased initiated the physical confrontation that resulted in his own death.



Yea if you only consider things after the aggravated assault By the murderers before the deceased tried to defend himself you are right.

Or do you think the whole chase and getting out drawing weapons has nothing at all to do with initiating confrontation. Despite the fact that mcmichaels said he went to confront Arbery.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:01 pm to
More the case that the deceased was not a patron Saint as depicted by our resident, social, pariah, but rather a dangerous felonious criminal who carried loaded stolen firearms into high school sporting events for nefariousness.

Then he still was committing crimes.

I wouldn't have shot him in hindsight, but still I don't think this clown is a wise choice for a BLM pool party.

Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13476 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:03 pm to
Can anyone tell me if it’s confirmed that he was robbing another house that day and provide a link? The internet is completely filled with disinformation on this and I haven’t followed it at all.
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