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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:35 pm to Wolfhound45
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:35 pm to Wolfhound45
Not pointing any fingers whatsoever, but there are a very surprising amount of posters amongst us who unapologetically have no issue with lethal force used against a thief or burglar or person fleeing the police, to cite just a few offenses I've observed drawing that opinion. It sometimes causes me to have heavy hearted feels.
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:36 pm to roadGator
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Who is tater tot?
Just a silly name for some idiot who thinks they can go all captain America over a Misdemeanor crime they had no knowledge of occurring and kill someone who defends themself from said idiot.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:38 pm to JPLSU1981
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No reasonable person would assume “misdemeanor trespassing” when a strange person is entering a house in a neighborhood that has had at least one felony burglary in the recent months.
That’s why you can’t make a citizen’s arrest in this circumstance. Must have been in the presence of or have immediate knowledge of a felony.
You are really bad at this.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:38 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
No reasonable person would assume “misdemeanor trespassing” when a strange person is entering a house in a neighborhood that has had at least one felony burglary in the recent months.
Except for the person who called the police, the police, and any reasonable person. Just because a felony occurred in the recent months doesnt make everything a felony
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:39 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:It was a construction site. Hence criminal trespassing.
entering a house
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:46 pm to JPLSU1981
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No reasonable person would assume “misdemeanor trespassing” when a strange person is entering a house in a neighborhood that has had at least one felony burglary in the recent months.
A former police officer should have known the difference and how not seeing a crime take place meant he couldn’t detain someone.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That’s why you can’t make a citizen’s arrest in this circumstance. Must have been in the presence of or have immediate knowledge of a felony, not "possible felony".
Fixed since the bolded part seems to be what they are trying to argue now.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:50 pm to the808bass
Fair point that a former police officer should have a better understanding of the actual law than a lay person non-law enforcement Type like myself... I just know If my neighborhood recently had a break in, I see my neighbor calling the police on a guy, said guy sprinting away from a house, I’m not thinking “oh that’s a misdemeanor trespassing”...I wouldn’t be thinking in legal terms, I’m probably thinking just like most normal people ... we’ve got a burglary/break-in in progress
That said, I certainly wouldn’t go chasing after the “suspect” in my car with guns... I Personally wouldn’t do that, and I don’t agree with that...But apparently, at least in Georgia, there are circumstances where that is legal to do. I guess it’s up to the courts to decide and interpret if those circumstances exist here.
That said, I certainly wouldn’t go chasing after the “suspect” in my car with guns... I Personally wouldn’t do that, and I don’t agree with that...But apparently, at least in Georgia, there are circumstances where that is legal to do. I guess it’s up to the courts to decide and interpret if those circumstances exist here.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:50 pm to Bard
Anyone else notice that this thread got the anchor?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:52 pm to JPLSU1981
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the little I had seen on news/online before today had it framed for me as a lynching, innocent black jogger hunted and killed by white men
I'm not clear why the Left ALWAYS insists on lying. The actual circumstances around this shooting are sketchy enough.
But they can't resist LYING because they're evil people.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:56 pm to JPLSU1981
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I see my neighbor calling the police on a guy, said guy sprinting away from a house
But we know for a fact that this did not occur. You must not have actually watched the videos or listened to the tapes.
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I’m not thinking “oh that’s a misdemeanor trespassing”...I wouldn’t be thinking in legal terms, I’m probably thinking just like most normal people
Which is EXACTLY why the situations that allow for a citizen’s arrest are so limited. This situation did not meet the standard set by law.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:56 pm to Bard
The subject has certainly received a great deal of attention on TD and obviously beyond. I think that's due at least in part to a craving for something else to go on about, other than the obvious of late. Of course this independently warrants some level of attention anyway, not saying it wouldn't of its own accord.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:01 pm to wmr
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I'm not clear why the Left ALWAYS insists on lying.
Have you seen how many people still think he was jogging?
They lie because it works, and there are no consequences for being wrong.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:04 pm to wmr
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The actual circumstances around this shooting are sketchy enough.
No they aren't, they are pretty clear-cut.
When something like this happens though, there is this mad rush to deify the person killed while making the killer(s) out to be nothing less than the most vile of racists who specifically and routinely go out looking to kill blacks.
In the rush of everyone to prove themselves by virtue signaling, if you don't immediately jump to one side then you are told you are immediately placed on the farthest extreme of the other side. There is no reasoned, middle ground.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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You must not have actually watched the videos or listened to the tapes.
I heard the 911 call from the other neighbor... watched the construction house inside cam and outside yard sprinting, and saw the final scuffle Where the deceased ran up to from behind truck and around the front of truck to fight the gun away son...Fight, gun goes off.
Are there other videos?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:07 pm to davyjones
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If a security guard at a bank charges an armed bank robber in an effort to disarm him, is the security guard an "aggressor" at fault in the matter?
It’s very surprising people like you can function day to day.
You’re comparing a convicted thief to a security guard? Abrey could’ve just as easily sat on his hands and waited for the cops to be the judge of the situation.
But did he do that? No, because he didn’t want to catch another charge and he paid with his life. Bad move on his part.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:07 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:What is burglary?
Did they observe a felony being committed? No.
Did they have direct knowledge of a felony being committed? No.
Those are the two elements necessary.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:08 pm to JPLSU1981
If you watched the videos and listened to the tapes and matched up the times then you would know that this:
did not happen.
quote:
I see my neighbor calling the police on a guy, said guy sprinting away from a house
did not happen.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:09 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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What is burglary?
Something that did not occur on the day of the incident. We know this for a fact.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:10 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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What is burglary
Irrelevant. (ETA its not just irrelevant, its something you are imagining, despite facts Otherwise.)
Because Arbery was potentially trespassing (misdemeanor), not burglary. And either way mcmichaels and son had no knowledge of the crime occurring. So no justification for a citizens arrest.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 10:20 pm
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