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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:55 am to More&Les
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:55 am to More&Les
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For Clarity, you are referring to McRednecks being caught in the commission of a felony correct? Because the only thing they "caught" Arbery doing is jogging in poliboard unapproved running gear, which may be justification for execution to some of the idiots on this board, but it wont hold up in court, at all.
I've seen questions regarding his "jogging" attire but I can't seem to find where anyone said it was justified.
How about let the courts actually decide the outcome instead of throwing your emotions out there. All the crying in the world is not going to determine the outcome.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:02 am to davyjones
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this gets all the way to trial, I think it would be a slick move for the defendants to waive jury trial and opt for judge trial. Reason being that a legally trained judge is a better audience for arguments on very technical points of law, which is the case here. And the judge would much better grasp those fine points and be much, much less susceptible to being swayed by emotion.
Yeah, while you may be right about that, would you want to be known by the black community as the racist judge that lets off the McMichael murderers on a technicality? Because that how it’ll be viewed by the black community.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 8:03 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:02 am to supadave3
quote:You say this like you just woke up from a 20 year slumber yesterday
Yeah, while you may be right about that, would you want to be known by the black community as the racist judge that lets off the McMichael murderers on a technicality? Because that how it’ll be viewed by the black community.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:14 am to BarberitosDawg
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Why will no social justice fruit-cake address the elephant in the room?
No one in this thread is SJW'ing this. The tribalism this sort of incident invokes is part of the issue.
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Ahmaud was not a Patron Saint like he is being depicted.
Agreed. No one in this thread is arguing that he is. Pointing out the faults of the McMicheals shouldn't be knee-jerked considered deification of Arbery. That's every bit as idiotic as the reverse.
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He was a felonious criminal who had even been convicted of carrying in a loaded, stolen, firearm into a high school sporting event at 19 years of age.
He had theft convictions of which he was currently on probation and For for the life of me I don't know why he was on the street in the first place after going columbine on his community.
Irrelevant. At the time of the altercation all they knew was that it was some guy matching the description of a person who had broken into some places in the area and stole a few items, and this person was "hauling arse down the road". They had no idea he was running from being seen trespassing at a new construction site, they had no idea if he was or wasn't the person breaking into places. Their attempt to stop him was as part of an attempt to question him. Their "citizen's arrest" argument falls a bit flat since they had no grounds under the law in which to attempt such an arrest.
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The media is depicting him in ancient pictures and all his mug shots have been erased from google images why?
Agreed. Go back to my response about tribalism. Most people (yourself included) want to look at this as an all-or-nothing issue. One side is completely wrong thus the other side cannot be called into question. Your inclusion of issues that were irrelevant due to being unknown at the time just underscores this.
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If this man is a felon he can't touch a gun ever, the second he grabbed that mans pistol he forfeited any rights he had period.
That's just moronic. He had tried to avoid the armed confrontation the McMicheals pushed on him. They were the aggressors in this, period. They doubled down when, after Arbery tried to avoid him by going around the opposite side of the truck, Travis moved to press the confrontation. At that point Arbery has the right to defend himself because the McMicheals are not executing a lawful citizen's arrest.
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We all know the true reasons the militants in here are running with this they just won't be honest with the board is all I'm saying.
The lack of knowledge you're expressing in not just the event itself but what's being argued here is astounding.
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This clown was a piece of crap going no where.
I don't know if this shooting was justified or not but that's why we have a court system and we will find out.
Just stop with the Patron Saint Ahmaud BS already.
I haven't seen anyone arguing differently. There may be some troll post somewhere in the 20+ pages but folks like Kork, 800, AMS, etc have at no time tried to canonize Arbery. Again, see my point about tribalism.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:16 am to Bard
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I haven't seen anyone arguing differently. There may be some troll post somewhere in the 20+ pages but folks like Kork, 800, AMS, etc have at no time tried to canonize Arbery. Again, see my point about tribalism.
Very true.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:19 am to xGeauxLSUx
The funniest thing about this video is how quickly it speeds up to make it look like the dude just straight books it after exiting the construction site with *nothing* in his hands 
He's got to be the worst burglar ever considering he didn't steal anything. To hell with it, track him down and shoot him anyway!
He's got to be the worst burglar ever considering he didn't steal anything. To hell with it, track him down and shoot him anyway!
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:53 am to supadave3
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Yeah, while you may be right about that, would you want to be known by the black community as the racist judge that lets off the McMichael murderers on a technicality? Because that how it’ll be viewed by the black community.
Well, let's be brutally honest: The "black community" have an incredibly zhitty record when it comes to choosing their causes and their heroes.
We've seen INNUMERABLE times where the Police make what is unquestionably a "good kill" and the "black community" STILL see fit to protest and riot.
If this guy had emptied an AK-47 at these baws preceding his death, the usual suspects would still be screaming.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:05 am to Ponchy Tiger
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How? Then 2 guys likely don't own much of real value. What the do have will be spent of quick on a defense attorney.
You don't have a clue how these things operate, do you? Wait for the celebrity gofundme's and for the BLMs and other groups start collecting and funneling in money. They won't get shite from the guys who did the shooting...but will profit from all of the Karens who believe the narrative.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:10 am to rumproast
Just a thought. If I were ever going to commit a murder, the first thing I would do is call the police before I did it. Makes perfect sense. It's illogical. Whatever this was, it would be hard to describe it as a murder or a cold blooded killing. Even backwoods rednecks are smart enough not to alert the police before they carry out some planned crime.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:14 am to rumproast
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Even backwoods rednecks are smart enough not to alert the police before they carry out some planned crime
And video it and tell the police about the video and give the police the video.
The initial narrative never made any sense, but, then again, I’m not an idiot.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:16 am to Turbeauxdog
I don't think the McDaniels set out with the intention of just killing this guy.
But they did bring guns so they clearly didn't rule out killing this guy either.
But they did bring guns so they clearly didn't rule out killing this guy either.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:16 am to supadave3
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Yeah, while you may be right about that, would you want to be known by the black community as the racist judge that lets off the McMichael murderers on a technicality? Because that how it’ll be viewed by the black community.
So he is supposed to make rulings based of feelings?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:16 am to More&Les
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Because the only thing they "caught" Arbery doing is jogging in poliboard unapproved running gear, which may be justification for execution to some of the idiots on this board, but it wont hold up in court, at all.
You need to take a deep breath, let the story unfold.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:17 am to Music_City_Tiger
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So he is supposed to make rulings based of feelings?
Liberal judges do daily.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:17 am to SammyTiger
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But they did bring guns so they clearly didn't rule out killing this guy if he threatened them either.
Definitely agree
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:36 am to Music_City_Tiger
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The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
The truth is:
A.) He should have been at Reidsville prison serving a 20-30 year prison sentence for his terroristic activities derived from 2013.
B.) The justice department here let us all down and it is what it is.
C.) Some of you drift far outside the topic headline and you need to take the Rose colored glasses off and stomp them.
D.) This is my last comment on this thread.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:36 am to BarberitosDawg
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This is my last comment on this thread.
No, it’s not.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:37 am to Turbeauxdog
Again it all comes down to whether they can rally justify a Citizen's arrest and the amount of force they were prepared to use in making it.
Citizen's arrest is out there to allow you to stop someone who see committing a crime without worrying about assault charges. It doesn't let private citizens play cop.
Citizen's arrest is out there to allow you to stop someone who see committing a crime without worrying about assault charges. It doesn't let private citizens play cop.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:37 am to SammyTiger
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I don't think the McDaniels set out with the intention of just killing this guy.
Agreed.
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But they did bring guns so they clearly didn't rule out killing this guy either.
Most likely they brought them out as just a show of force, thinking it would cow Arbery into acquiescence and possibly scare the person they believed might be robbing homes from coming back to that neighborhood. I have the firm belief that Travis' career as a LEO had him slip into that wearing-a-badge mindset where a LEO can legally detain someone for questioning about a possible crime whereas a regular citizen cannot.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:47 am to Bard
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I have the firm belief that Travis' career as a LEO had him slip into that wearing-a-badge mindset where a LEO can legally detain someone for questioning about a possible crime whereas a regular citizen cannot.
not unreasonable, and probably likely.
However a citizen's arrest has a higher standard than a police arrest.
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