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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:07 pm to Turbeauxdog
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:07 pm to Turbeauxdog
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fitness regiment
Sure it’s not a battalion?
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:07 pm to the808bass
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There’s a female in Georgia charged with murder for a killing a guy who attacked her while she was attempting a “legal” citizens arrest.
The quotes and where you chose to put them is telling.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:08 pm to the808bass
Twice in two days!
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:09 pm to davyjones
quote:And it should be DOUBLY expected in a case covering a subject where you already know that you cannot trust the initial reports from the media...……..EVER.
Although IMO the prosecution has a sound enough case to run with as currently charged. That's subject to change due to potential new developments that could imperil their case. Of course that's always a factor in every prosecution.
It would be one thing is this was our first rodeo. But we've ridden this bull before.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:09 pm to rrboy
quote:You have been manipulated by a well-known far-right "scientific racist" and white supremacist.
After watching that video I think they’re going to be innocent.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:10 pm to the808bass
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There’s a female in Georgia charged with murder for a killing a guy who attacked her while she was attempting a “legal” citizens arrest.
A quick google search turns up a half dozen cases in the last few years of being held liable for injury/death occurring during a citizens arrest, in some cases where the person they were arresting actually was guilty and proven so.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:10 pm to Turbeauxdog
Well, she actually saw him commit the hit and run. So she was in better shape than the McMichaels appear to be. And she was still charged with murder after the citizens arrest turned into an altercation and then ended in a shooting.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:11 pm to the808bass
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Well, she actually saw him commit the hit and run. So she was in better shape than the McMichaels appear to be. And she was still charged with murder after the citizens arrest turned into an altercation and then ended in a shooting.
And this was Georgia? Got a link? I'm very interested in reading about that.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
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This is incorrect, extensive court precedent has established that if the suspect doesn’t comply with a citizens arrest there is really no recourse to detain them in which you are legally protected. People attempting to use force, even after being attacked, have been charged with everything from kidnapping to battery to murder. Even if the suspect was guilty and found guilty you can be held liable for damages in civil court, as a clerk in Washington was last year
So the persons who assault a citizen attempting a legal arrest aren’t charged with assault?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:12 pm to Korkstand
Molyneux is a white supremacist?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:13 pm to Turbeauxdog
I’ve read the police report and what they told polices they didn’t witness the crime and didn’t have immediate knowledge of it.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:13 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:13 pm to the808bass
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Well, she actually saw him commit the hit and run. So she was in better shape than the McMichaels appear to be. And she was still charged with murder after the citizens arrest turned into an altercation and then ended in a shooting
Yeah , no ones ever doubted the existence of stupid lawyers and judges rewriting laws they don’t like.
At least I haven’t
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:13 pm to Turbeauxdog
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So the persons who assault a citizen attempting a legal arrest aren’t charged with assault?
Not when they’re dead. No.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:15 pm to Turbeauxdog
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So the persons who assault a citizen attempting a legal arrest aren’t charged with assault?
Sometimes, it has just depended on whether they were justified in fearing for their lives.
Your right to defend yourself against deadly force isn’t automatically forfeit just because you committed a crime. If you yourself are no longer a danger to someone and a citizen threatens you with deadly force you can still defend yourself without fleeing in a stand your ground state.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:19 pm to Turbeauxdog
Laws are written to be interpreted.
What does immediate knowledge mean?
What does immediate knowledge mean?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:21 pm to the808bass
Ok , finally read up on the case you’ve been harping about for two days.
A) she didn’t witness a felony:
(b) If such accident is the proximate cause of death or a serious injury, any person knowingly failing to stop and comply with the requirements of subsection (a) of this Code section shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.
(c)(1) If such accident is the proximate cause of an injury other than a serious injury or if such accident resulted in damage to a vehicle which is driven or attended by any person, any person knowingly failing to stop or comply with the requirements of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and
B) in her 911 call she yells at the guy “I’m going to shoot you!”
This is an L for you bud.
A) she didn’t witness a felony:
(b) If such accident is the proximate cause of death or a serious injury, any person knowingly failing to stop and comply with the requirements of subsection (a) of this Code section shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.
(c)(1) If such accident is the proximate cause of an injury other than a serious injury or if such accident resulted in damage to a vehicle which is driven or attended by any person, any person knowingly failing to stop or comply with the requirements of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and
B) in her 911 call she yells at the guy “I’m going to shoot you!”
This is an L for you bud.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:22 pm to Turbeauxdog
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A) she didn’t witness a felony:
Did the McMichaels?
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B) in her 911 call she yells at the guy “I’m going to shoot you!”
That say's nothing. If he was approaching her, her saying "I'm going to shoot you!" doesn't legally remove her right to self defense. Depending on the situation it could improve it.
Imagine Travis warning Ahmaud that he was going to shoot him as Ahmaud approached him. That would strengthen his case, right?
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:23 pm to SammyTiger
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What does immediate knowledge mean?
Well, we’ve had posters here conflating it with in person, which is of course wrong.
I hope a jury will decide if whatever knowledge we find out they had is immediate. My guess is depending on the emotions of the judge, they
might not get that chance.
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