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re: The "wrong side of history" liberal protester meme
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:23 pm to Breesus
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:23 pm to Breesus
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Trump never ran on a platform that has anything to do with the LGBT community. In fact, he pledged to defend their rights against the likes of Isis. They have marriage equality. They have federal protection of their rights. What else do they want? He pledged to protect them, and they call him Hitler.
This is true but they're used to it from many right wing folk. They shouldn't put that on Donald but he's got a lot of people around him (pence) that are not LGBTQ friendly.
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As for the ignorant "no more kkk" and "black power" slogans they're bitching about, Trump ran on a platform of improving the inner cities, revamping education, trying to improve impoverished communities. When have you ever heard a politician say that? It was his fricking platform and they call him a racist biggot.
Well thats bc of the actual racist quotes from him over the years and calling people "the blacks" and "the mexicans." He also had a huge backing from tge KKK which he never disavowed, though he isnt a member. He retweets a lot of stuff from white supremacists and uses images from them, such as the anti jew logo with Hillary in it.
Spare us all if we dont see his comments as anything more than patronizing bs from a rich white kid. Im really sure he gives a frick about the inner cities and their problems. He settled out of court for not renting to black people.
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He wants to streamline the immigration process and ensure that those who come here legally are rewarded and they call him anti-immigration.
Maybe its all of the statements he has made wherehe says he going to round up all of the illegals and throw them out and says he's going to make Mexico build a giant wall... i know he's been softening on that but his original tone was a little resonating to the xenophobes. Also, blocking all muslims isnt exactly streamlining.
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He ran his campaign with an extremely well paid female campaign manager, Hillary ran hers with a team of men who were all paid higher than the women on her staff and they call him sexist.
They call him sexist for his comments about women. Not a mystery. As far as the campaign stuff, Hillary was the highest person in her campaign so not sure that you're making any point there.
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tired of it. This country is tired of it. And these people need to shut the frick and go home or start to face real consequences.
Im tired of it, too. Those people are going over the top but the delusion is going around hard in the other direction too. Your post looked great until I added reality into it.
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:32 pm to BeeFense5
Sounds like the delusional people who think God is on their side during war.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:42 pm to Ebbandflow
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he's got a lot of people around him (pence) that are not LGBTQ friendly.
The LGBT community isn't friendly to anyone. Not everyone has to be absolutely accepting of all lifestyles. Their rights aren't going anywhere.
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Well thats bc of the actual racist quotes from him over the years and calling people "the blacks" and "the mexicans."
What is he supposed to call them? They, the MSM, and most of the people in the world call them the blacks and the mexicans. And the call me the whites. No one has ever called me a Caucasian European American.
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He also had a huge backing from tge KKK which he never disavowed. He retweets a lot of stuff from white supremacists and uses images from them
He didn't have a "huge backswing" of KkK support. The KKK have openly been against the Democratic party for a century. They didn't just suddenly show up to vote for Trump. Things like this really don't deserve a response.
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Spare us all if we dont see his comments as anything more than patronizing bs from a rich white kid.
What did you see Hillary, Obama, Clinton, etc.... comments as? Did they actually help anything? Ever?
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Maybe its all of the statements he has made wherehe says he going to round up all of the illegals and throw them out
Good. What is this fascination with supporting and defending criminals?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:45 pm to Breesus
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Their rights aren't going anywhere.
Pence has said otherwise
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:53 pm to buckeye_vol
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While listening to the Dan Carlin's Hardcore History on The Wrath of Kahn he brought up an had an interesting view and our hypocrisy regarding genocidal leaders of the past.
I mean Hitler is rightfully seen as true evil, yet I've eaten at a place called Genghis Grill, and yet Genghis Kahn and his successors conquests wiped out 5% of the world's population. They also destroyed Baghdad when Muslims were some of the most intellectually, scientifically, and culturally advanced populations. I can't help but wonder if Islam would be much different in present day if that never occured.
Yet, given all of that Hitler is rightfully on the "wrong side of history" and Genghis doesn't appear to be as far on that side.
FWIW, I love Carlin, and I remember that exact reference as well. The khans killed - what was it - like 30+ million people in the 13th century. China alone was like half that IIRC. That'd be like many hundreds of millions as the same percentage of the world today. It's one of the reasons why I've always said Ghengis is the most important/greatest person in human history.
Anyway, the American left has an extraordinarily ingrained Whiggish sense of history. All of history moves towards progress. Human society can be perfected. Ideology is religion. It's why you see this "wrong side of history" nonsense quite a bit.
They don't realize that it took the world about a millennium to catch back up to the civilizational height of the Roman Empire after its collapse. That sacks of various cities over the years (Alexandria and Baghdad, to name two) have set human beings back centuries. That there's pretty decent evidence that the end of the last ice age destroyed some relatively advanced civilizations, and it took thousands of years for humankind to catch back up. Human progress is an ebb and flow. The last eighty years of Western civilization has completely sheltered many in the West, but especially liberals.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Their rights aren't going anywhere.
Pence has said otherwise
I'd be willing to bet $1,000 right here, right now that nothing will happen with gay rights or abortion. That's just not really that high on Trump's (or the Republican Congress', for that matter) agenda, and even if they do care about it (and I really don't think Trump does), they won't want to waste precious political capital on it.
I've offered that bet to every single whiny Millennial I've talked to about those issues, and none have bitten. Not a single one. It's just emoting.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:04 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Time will tell how much influence Pence has. If in a few months he's looking like more of a Cheney than a Quayle I'd be happy to take that bet.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:10 pm to Ebbandflow
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Maybe its all of the statements he has made wherehe says he going to round up all of the illegals and throw them out
What's wrong with that? Come here legally and you can stay.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:14 pm to Breesus
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The LGBT community isn't friendly to anyone. Not everyone has to be absolutely accepting of all lifestyles. Their rights aren't going anywhere.
I agree that their rights arent going to disappear but having an evangelical vice president and a republican congress would make e nervous if i was gay. You have to understand that.
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What is he supposed to call them? They, the MSM, and most of the people in the world call them the blacks and the mexicans. And the call me the whites. No one has ever called me a Caucasian European American.
Come on man. Do i really need to link all of the quotes? Dont be willfully ignorant.
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didn't have a "huge backswing" of KkK support. The KKK have openly been against the Democratic party for a century. They didn't just suddenly show up to vote for Trump. Things like this really don't deserve a response.
Its not a good look, either way.
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What did you see Hillary, Obama, Clinton, etc.... comments as? Did they actually help anything? Ever?
I agree but when you couple it with Donald's racist comments it looks a little worse.
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Good. What is this fascination with supporting and defending criminals?
Its more complicated than that. Should be easier to become a ctizen. I would cross the border if i was mexican, too. They have lives here, families..etc. what of the blocking all muslims?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:20 pm to Ebbandflow
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racist quotes from him over the years
The man has been famous and in the public eye for 30 plus years and no one ever accused him of being racist until he decided to run as a Republican for President. In fact Jessie Jackson's rainbow coalition presented him with an award for the wonderful help he provided in rebuilding Harlem but as soon as he attached "Republican" to his name the race hustlers and liberal MSM labels him a racist.
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also had a huge backing from tge KKK which he never disavowed,
LINK
Sounds like you just ate up the same garbage that most liberals did without bothering to even try and see if it was actually true.
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says he going to round up all of the illegals and throw them out and says he's going to make Mexico build a giant wall.
I fail to see the problem with either of these statements, we are a nation (nations must have borders or there not really a nation) of laws and every single one of the illegal immigrants who crossed into this country ILLEGALLY should face the consequences of breaking our laws. Im sure they knew what they were doing was illegal and if caught they would/should be deported just like they would be in any other sovergn nation on the planet. In fact im sure Mexico just allows anyone to cross their southern border freely and w/o any limitations or consequences right?
The people of this country finally took a stand Tuesday against the type of idiocy that shames and lables people as racist, homophobic or anti muslim because they happen to have a different set of values or ideas than the so called "progressives" and those same people are fed up with the PC bullshite crammed down their throats every day from liberal elitists that showed exactly what they think of the vast majority of middle class people in America - that they are ignorant, racist and uneducated which means they shouldn't be allowed to make decisions for themselves. It was a beautiful thing to watch unfold as they literally came unglued in front of the world. I loved every single minute of it and luckily I recorded it too so I can go back for a good laugh any time I need to.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:24 pm to RightWingTiger
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also had a huge backing from tge KKK which he never disavowed,
Huge backing? Aren't there like less than 5000 known KKK members left in the US? I mean there are high schools in Dallas bigger than that.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:26 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Aren't there like less than 5000 known KKK members left in the US?
SPLC says 5-8k
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:26 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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nothing will happen with gay rights or abortion.
These are not big issues on my list admittedly compared to the economy. Just want to throw this out there:
Almost 2000 future black lives are aborted every day in the US, yet #BLM fiercely supports Hillary. Black women have the highest abortion rate by far among all demographics.
Essentially Hillary vs a canidate that is against abortion is the difference between 3 million black lives in just one presidential term. If no black child had been aborted since 1973 the African American community would be 50% larger than it is today.
#BLM isn't about black lives, it's about white cops. #TruthHurts
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:30 pm to Ebbandflow
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I agree that their rights arent going to disappear but having an evangelical vice president and a republican congress would make e nervous if i was gay. You have to understand that
Why? Are you under some impression all gay people have to think alike?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SPLC says 5-8k
Well shite. If THEY are declaring those numbers, the reality is likely even much less. Is there any comparable group of such appalling insignificance that gets anything close to as much play?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:33 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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If THEY are declaring those numbers, the reality is likely even much less.
exactly why i made sure to cite them (that and the inability of progs to dispute the source)
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Is there any comparable group of such appalling insignificance that gets anything close to as much play?
no. one of SFP's laws is when somebody brings up the KKK as a legitimate force in modern America, you can discount everything else they just said
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:37 pm to RightWingTiger
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The man has been famous and in the public eye for 30 plus years and no one ever accused him of being racist until he decided to run as a Republican for President. In fact Jessie Jackson's rainbow coalition presented him with an award for the wonderful help he provided in rebuilding Harlem but as soon as he attached "Republican" to his name the race hustlers and liberal MSM labels him a racist.
He said blacks were lazy, he said he didnt want black people counting his money, and he didnt rent to a few black people and was sued for it. He settled out of court.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:38 pm to Ebbandflow
well if we're bringing up shite from 30 years ago, HRC called balck people super predators
so there were only racist options by that standard
so there were only racist options by that standard
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well if we're bringing up shite from 30 years ago, HRC called balck people super predators
so there were only racist options by that standard
She was talking about gangs and kids in them. No specific connotation to black people. But we are talking about Donald not Hillary.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:46 pm to Ebbandflow
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She was talking about gangs and kids in them
oh wait
we get to qualify her statements and look at the whole context?
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