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re: This Extended Unemployment and Labor Force Shortage
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:22 am to lsu2006
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:22 am to lsu2006
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Bingo. People love to put this type of onus on individuals in a tough job market - like those timeless classics, "just get a better job!" or "Learn to code!" - but when it's turned around and the onus is put on the employer to evolve and meet the demands of the unwashed masses, it's a no-go.
This post shows a colossal misunderstanding of free market economics and freedom in general. Employers are not competing with their natural competitors for labor force. They are competing with the government who is literally paying people to do nothing. No business can compete with that.
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:33 am to BlackAdam
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:34 am to Muthsera
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I haven't seen you or anyone else in this thread address the pre-Covid issues with filling low wage,
I haven't seen you address it either genius.
In my home state, Georgia, there is still 5x the amount of continuous unemployment claims then there was pre Covid. 5 times.
The issue is the Fed Gov continuing to prop up unemployment with additional monies. The only way to reduce the amount of continuing claims is to cut off the federal money. That is the argument.
The market will take care of the rest. In my area, I see signs from manufacturing companies starting at $15/hr and fast food starting at $10/11 hr. Better then what it was pre Covid.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:35 am to anc
Good. Nobody wants to work a shite job for shite pay while the owner runs around playing socialite all day and a worker can barely pay their light bill. Supply and demand, high demand, low supply, better learn how to play the game or suffer.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:36 am to BlackAdam
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This post shows a colossal misunderstanding of free market economics and freedom in general.
I'm not sure it's that so much as disdain for the free market.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:39 am to auggie
Sounds like that rooster needs to die of acute lead poisoning!
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:42 am to BlackAdam
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They are competing with the government who is literally paying people to do nothing.
Yeah, can't argue with these geniuses any more. They actually believe that the government using taxpayer dollars to compete with private enterprise for employees. Socialists gonna socialist.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:44 am to troyt37
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Yeah, can't argue with these geniuses any more. They actually believe that the government using taxpayer dollars to compete with private enterprise for employees. Socialists gonna socialist.
And you can't even address the issue which is employers offering shitty deals to employees and forcing the taxpayers to subsidize their profits while dodging taxes.
Newsflash bozo: we have been subsidizing profits for giant corporations for decades.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:48 am to Damone
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I fail to see a problem with workers having access to jobs with higher wages.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read on TD.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:05 pm to jclem11
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And you can't even address the issue which is employers offering shitty deals to employees and forcing the taxpayers to subsidize their profits while dodging taxes.
Newsflash bozo: we have been subsidizing profits for giant corporations for decades.
No, the issue is the federal government is using taxpayer dollars to compete with private enterprise for entry level employees. Entry level employees should make entry level wages. Entry level wages are only a shitty deal to those who did not find it important to educate themselves, are too lazy to learn the skills which make them more valuable to their employers, or are perfectly happy fleecing the taxpayer.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:07 pm to BlackAdam
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This post shows a colossal misunderstanding of free market economics and freedom in general.
No it doesn't. It shows that I have a deep understanding of the fundamental flaws of a pure free market. And the responses show how much people hate to see a shift in power from corporations to the middle and working class of people which make up the vast majority of our populace.
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They are competing with the government who is literally paying people to do nothing. No business can compete with that.
Of course they can compete with that. It's super fricking simple, actually. Pay them better than the equivalent of starvation wages and they won't need to stay home and collect government assistance. Boom, corporations win and their employees win. We can all go home now.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:12 pm to jclem11
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It's not 1987 anymore grandpa.
so are you fine with the govt paying healthy, able people to stay home with your tax dollars?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:18 pm to DawgCountry
Just food for thought, no pun intended.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:18 pm to Damone
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I fail to see a problem with workers having access to jobs with higher wages.
Which are constantly available. IF YOU APPLY YOURSELF.
If you fail to see lackeys getting 5 to 10 dollars an hour more to do the same job..... you will. In the restaurants... grocery stores... home improvement stores... etc.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:25 pm to CleverUserName
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Which are constantly available. IF YOU APPLY YOURSELF.
Maybe if the cashier just works hard enough, one day he will be the CEO!
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:28 pm to DawgCountry
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with your tax dollars?
That's probably not a valid assumption.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:29 pm to Eurocat
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Just food for thought, no pun intended.
Now do the difference in just consumer prices, grocery prices, and restaurant prices.
And since when have you been a white supremacist?? You want this country to be more like a solid white one?? Your racism shall not be tolerated.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:30 pm to Damone
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Maybe if the cashier just works hard enough, one day he will be the CEO!
Or uhh.. jeez... you obtain job skills to advance beyond a cashier?????
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:31 pm to Eurocat
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Just food for thought, no pun intended.
Here's some more food for thought. The income tax in Denmark ranges from 65% to 55%. That's right, the LOW END is 55%. That means that burger slinger pays over half her income back to the government. Oh, and a 22% national sales tax every time she buys something.
Now if you want to tell the 47% of this country that pays zero income taxes that they're about to pony up over half their income so they can make $21/hour at McDonalds, let me know in advance so I can pull up a chair and watch the reaction.
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