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re: Time for Trump to stop attacking the "competition"
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:01 pm to BlueFalcon
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:01 pm to BlueFalcon
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Trump needs to stop seeing the other Republicans as legitimate competition and start uniting the Right.
He’ll never try to unite anyone, he never has.
He loves division.
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:02 pm to Paddyshack
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Regardless, as I've said 100 times before, Trump needs Ron supporters and Ron needs Trump supporters for either one to win a general election.
Trump is not winning the General, whether he’s made the nominee this month or next March.
If he is indeed the nominee, the Dems will have Biden withdraw. They already have the mechanism in place to do so.
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Democratic Party rules governing vacancies See also: Democratic presidential nomination, 2020 Under Article 2 of The Bylaws of the Democratic Party, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) has the responsibility to fill vacancies in presidential and vice presidential nominations between national conventions.[3] In the event of a vacancy on the national ticket, the chairperson would call a special meeting. Under Article 2 § 8(d), questions before the DNC, with some exceptions otherwise outlined in the charter and bylaws, are determined by a majority vote of the DNC members who are present and voting by proxy. The bylaws also state that voting to fill a vacancy on the national ticket must proceed in accordance with procedural rules adopted by the Rules and Bylaws Committee and approved by the DNC.[3]
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Overview States require political parties to submit names of presidential and vice presidential nominees and presidential electors in order to certify them for the general election ballot. Deadlines vary by state and are dependent on the election calendar, including early voting, voting by mail, and absentee voting considerations. Nearly half of the states have a deadline in August, and most require certification or identification of a candidate to fill a vacancy no later than September 8. Replacing a candidate's name on the ballot in September, therefore, becomes increasingly difficult as many states will have already printed ballots or begun to allow voters to cast ballots.
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:18 pm to BlueFalcon
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stop attacking the "competition"
Literally the point of a competition and election.
What happens when a foreign leader attacks the competition or says mean things? Should we get the TD clan to go after them for being mean?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:42 pm to David_DJS
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You neglected to paste the part of my post where I acknowledged that soft AF MAGA would punish/further punish whoever speaks poorly of the orange messiah.
There is no 'soft AF' category in polls. It's registered republicans. I said the Trump attacker would drop, period, in the only poll they take. The only one which predicts who will win the primary.
If you think there are lots of conservatives (your words) that want a Trump attack tonight, then logically that attacker will have more votes from those people and his polls will go up.
If you say 'Well, but it will be outweighed by the pro Trumpers getting mad.' That's my original point.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:44 pm to Zach
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If you think there are lots of conservatives (your words) that want a Trump attack tonight, then logically that attacker will have more votes from those people and his polls will go up.
You're assuming the GOP/MAGA is teeming with conservatives. You shouldn't.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:03 pm to Zach
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Today I'm more interested in seeing who within 'the competition' is going to attack Trump tonight.
Christie. It’s his whole purpose.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:07 pm to David_DJS
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You're assuming the GOP/MAGA is teeming with conservatives. You shouldn't.
No...You're the one who brought up conservatives who hate Trump. I've been talking about Registered Republicans.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:53 pm to Zach
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No...You're the one who brought up conservatives who hate Trump.
I didn't bring up conservatives who hate Trump. I brought up conservatives who'd like to see Trump challenged on his record.
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I've been talking about Registered Republicans.
Exactly. Registered Republicans and the rest of MAGA.
You keep thinking that I suggested that a candidate that goes critical of Trump tonight is going to benefit from that in the polls. I didn't suggest that at all.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:56 pm to BlueFalcon
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:58 pm to BlueFalcon
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Trump needs to stop seeing the other Republicans as legitimate competition and start uniting the Right.
Won't happen. Ever.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:01 pm to BlueFalcon
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Nick Saban needs to retire because the dynasty is over
I suspect it won't be long.
Now everyone can pay players with impunity, not just Saban.
And Saban is a 3-4 loss per year coach when he doesn't absolutely dominate the competition in terms of talent.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:15 pm to David_DJS
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You keep thinking that I suggested that a candidate that goes critical of Trump tonight is going to benefit from that in the polls. I didn't suggest that at all.
Yes, you did. Otherwise, what the hell was your fricking point?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:23 pm to Zach
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Yes, you did. Otherwise, what the hell was your fricking point?
No, I didn't. And my point was exactly what I posted. Here it is -
You should be more specific. A Trump attacker would see their polls decline amongst soft AF Trump superfans. There are a lot of conservatives that would very much welcome Trump being challenged on his record and ideas. It's understandable why Trump ducked this debate.
I don't think you should read that as a suggestion that attacking Trump would benefit the attacker in the polls.
My point is that the few conservatives that still exist in the country would like to see Trump challenged on his record. Not because we'd want to see Trump beaten in a general, but because it would be a good thing for Trump to worry about losing support on the Right if he presides like a liberal half the time in a second term.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:36 pm to BlueFalcon
It's still early. Too early for anyone to drop out. The first delegate contest isn't until January for goodness sakes.
And yeah Trump should probably stop attacking other R's, but that's what he is good at. Giving that up is giving up a huge tactical advantage. Could it eventually backfire? Absolutely. But what are the alternatives?
And yeah Trump should probably stop attacking other R's, but that's what he is good at. Giving that up is giving up a huge tactical advantage. Could it eventually backfire? Absolutely. But what are the alternatives?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:40 pm to David_DJS
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My point is that the few conservatives that still exist in the country would like to see Trump challenged on his record.
JHFC, that's totally irrelevant to my post about the effect on the polls. Why should I be 'more specific' when it has NOTHING to do with my assertion about poll results?
IE, what you should have said is "Zach, you are totally right. But there are some people who will be happy they he's being attacked."
I never said everyone would be mad about attacks.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:53 pm to Zach
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IE, what you should have said is "Zach, you are totally right. But there are some people who will be happy they he's being attacked."
I never said everyone would be mad about attacks.
Well, that's pretty much what I said. Granted, you'd have to be able to read between a line or two, but not a great challenge.
Let me respond in a way I think you'll be able to follow -
Zach, you're right where Trump superfans are concerned. Clearly, they do not respond favorably to anybody that criticizes the orange messiah. But there's still a faction of actual conservatives that would like Trump challenged on his record, in hopes he receives a message that some of his support comes from conservatives and they shouldn't be taken for granted should he win reelection.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:55 pm to jlnoles79
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Trump is incapable of this
Correct
So if he can't unite the right how tf is he going to unite the country?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:01 pm to David_DJS
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Zach, you're right where Trump superfans are concerned
Wrong.
If you were into cogent thought it would be:
Zach, you're right where MOST republicans are concerned.
This has NOTHING to do with superfans. The demographic is republicans.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 4:02 pm
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