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Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:13 am to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:13 am to
quote:

He's saying that given the size of the 2020 polling lead, a 2016-size polling error would still render a Biden victory. Another way of saying it is that 2020 would have to have a bigger polling error than in '16 for a Trump win.



Correct.

Thanks, should have made that more clear in my OP.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:13 am to
This is my final map for the election:

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:13 am to
The behavior of the campaigns do not match the majority of the polling services.

Something fricky is going to go down in PA w/ found votes.
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:17 am to
which ones are we talking about? the ones from last week, or the ones recently showing dead heats and trump leads?

maybe yall are talking about the real clear "averages".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471815 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Biden has an average of +2.9 in battleground state averages right now according to RCP

The polls in 2016 missed by +2.8.

a. this is silly and you have to go through state by state

b. they clearly tried to make absolutely too absurd of results for months, so if they're wrong, it's going to be much worse this time
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39206 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:17 am to
quote:

The polls in 2016 missed by +2.8.
Look at it by state. Trump way over performed the polls in the key swing states
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471815 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:

The behavior of the campaigns do not match the majority of the polling services.

The behavior of campaigns and the coordinated media do not come close to matching "Democratic blowout"

I mean look at 2016. they legit THOUGHT the polling data was good in 2016 and were celebrating long before election day

HRC didn't even have a concession speech
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:22 am to
True.

Trump will win tomorrow.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39274 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:22 am to
DIfferent website (538)

I know, I know - "Nate Silver is a cuck and a fraud"

But he's just using his own failures to subtract from this year's data. Could this year's polls be off? Sure, but they'd have to be MORE off than they were is all I'm saying.

quote:

if they're wrong, it's going to be much worse this time


no doubt
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17173 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:27 am to
True

The only mail in states that have an absurd delay are California, Nevada and Pennsylvania

Pennsylvania is a must win for Trump, but my God he’s got 60,000 people showing up at his rallies.

I think he’s declared winner late Tuesday/ early Wednesday and there’s litigation in Penn/Minnesota

Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
715 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:29 am to
quote:

False, that’s just our bias.


Yep. Echo chambers aren't limited to just the political left; the right has them too. That's how Hillary voters got stunned and shocked off guard last time, and how many Trump voters may get shocked this time.
Posted by Steve Meve
Member since Nov 2005
277 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:30 am to
Sup baw
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471815 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:32 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471815 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Yep. Echo chambers aren't limited to just the political left; the right has them too.

you think I'm a Trumpkin?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34956 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:34 am to
When you have Biden campaigning in Minnesota days before the election, then all bets are off.

That's the biggest tell I've seen.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176513 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:35 am to
Why do you keep name dropping Steve Meve like we know who the frick that is
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137218 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Trump is the only candidate who can outright win Tuesday night
Weird election. Would not surprise me if things are close, someone calling it for Biden. Even if Trump outperformed 5-7 points and obviously had it bagged, I don't think a single network would call the election for Trump tomorrow.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471815 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:39 am to
i'm sorry you aren't cool enough to know what that means
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:40 am to
Long time Steve.
Posted by TigerWoodlands
The Woodlands
Member since Dec 2008
1189 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:44 am to
I agree. I think Trump is the candidate who could surprise on the upside.
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