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Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:27 am to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:27 am to
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abortion is the ending of a potential baby


So what exactly makes a baby in the womb a potential human and not an actual human? Just because of their location? What is the qualifying factor that does or does not make them human?

Again, even Vaush (who is no right winger) will concede these facts. He does not try to hide beside pseudo science to justify his beliefs. He makes clear that he feels the mother has superior rights and is justified terminating her baby's life. I disagree, but at least give him credit for being consistent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:32 am to
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I think where I fundamentally disagree with you is a woman does not decide to be raped, and given the nature of the crime, asking someone to raise a child they were quite literally forced by rape into is a line for me.

And with the vast majority of Americans

If the extremists think they're emboldened because they can "catch" this super majority in a bit of logical hypocrisy?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:34 am to
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And still about the elections again.

That's what this thread is about, isn't it?

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elections do not matter

What?

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The globalists will get their way no matter what.

Oh...
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37172 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:39 am to
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One cannot “punish“ a fetus any more than one can “punish“ a person in PVS. Without conscious awareness, there can be no “punishment.“



That’s your opinion and opinion of pro choice people.

SFP posted sob stories trying to make an emotional argument that pro life without an exception for rape is an extreme position.

I would say it’s a logical position for someone who is pro life. That is another human inside the mother. That other human did not rape the mother. Why should the child receive capital punishment for the fathers crime?

Does the mom ask for the arrest and capital punishment of a 5 year old child of their rapist?

No that would be crazy.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:40 am to
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elections do not matter
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What?

Isn’t he one of those who is utterly convinced that all elections are an elaborate ruse, with predetermined results?

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37172 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:41 am to
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Having said that, elections are largely a states' rights issue. I'm genuinely curious.


Election fraud is the jurisdiction of the DOJ.

The DOJ that Trump as in charge of.


You’ve let his excuses pollute your brain
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:43 am to
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What would you have had Trump do to remedy the Covid heist?



Not bailed out states that participated in economic terrorism.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:44 am to
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hacked apart



Do truth and science bother you?

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37172 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:45 am to
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asking someone to raise a child they were quite literally forced by rape into is a line for me.



There’s plenty of people who can’t have children and want children.

Adoption.

No one is forcing her to raise them. Just saying it’s not ok to kill them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:47 am to
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SFP posted sob stories trying to make an emotional argument that pro life without an exception for rape is an extreme position.

What?

He said he had never heard of it and I showed it has happened.

The "no exception" stance is considered an extreme position by the overall electorate. That's a different discussion.

Stop creating strawman arguments

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I would say it’s a logical position for someone who is pro life. That is another human inside the mother. That other human did not rape the mother. Why should the child receive capital punishment for the fathers crime?


Do you want to feel correct in your logic in an argument you've meticulously framed while losing elections, OR, win elections while maintaining your own personal beliefs?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:48 am to
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Do truth and science bother you?


He says, unironically, to the medical professional
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:48 am to
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There’s plenty of people who can’t have children and want children.

Adoption.

No one is forcing her to raise them

Only carry it for 9 months and have their body, mind, and life destroyed in the process. ONLY THAT.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37172 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:54 am to
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Do you want to feel correct in your logic in an argument you've meticulously framed while losing elections, OR, win elections while maintaining your own personal beliefs?



I understand that I am out of the norm on this but I think it’s only logically consistent.

I’m willing to have someone who shares 90% of my beliefs in power over someone with none
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:54 am to
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I’m willing to have someone who shares 90% of my beliefs in power over someone with none


That's better than some in this thread.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137062 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:57 am to
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Election fraud is the jurisdiction of the DOJ.
The implication was Trump had "4 yrs" to correct something. My question was what was the "something" and its remedy?
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10476 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:57 am to
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Isn’t he one of those who is utterly convinced that all elections are an elaborate ruse, with predetermined results?


Elections are still important locally, and need to be even more emphasized how important they are.



But federally, we really do not have any agency anymore to affect them. Before even getting into the outright election flipping (which I honestly cannot prove or disprove), elections and our Congress is most certainly "rigged" and has been for a long time.

Because of the passage of the 16th and 17th ammendments, the Federal Reserve Act, and other SCOTUS decisions such as Citizens United, our elections and politicians are just simply bought by large multi-national corporations and banks.

We have no ability to affect these outcomes. How is it possible someone like Mitch McConnell (who everyone in this state hates), continues to get elected cycle after cycle? For one he controls the entire machine and elections apparatus in the state from top to bottom, and finances it through multi-national contributions that come out of state and even out of country.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:58 am to
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SFP posted sob stories


Its his new tactic. I suppose it worked so well for the purple haired women he thought he would try it.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1802 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:58 am to
Good. He’s probably right. Social conservatives are morons.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:01 am to
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He was working aginst the most politically malignant (frankly treasonous) IC in US history. Hoover would blush if he saw how corrupt today's FBI is
.

I concur fully.

Given that was/is the case, was it incumbent upon Trump to have been frank the American people? Or, just play along with the charade of "gumint bitness as usual"?

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Having said that, elections are largely a states' rights issue.


But what at the NATIONAL level? Moreover, STATE Electorals are assigned to a National Presidential Elections, aren't they?

Moreover, can you please justify the negligence of Trump Admin to NOT prioritize and preserve Election integrity? Even HE complained about it BEFORE the election. *Was* he powerless and impotent to do so?

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I'm genuinely curious. What would you have had Trump do to remedy the Covid heist?


Why weren't official investigations into the extent of "Pandemic" conducted before determining that the entire economy -- INCLUDING Constitutional and Civil Rights -- needed to be semi-suspended?

Event 201 table to exercise. Ever hear of it? Or, the Clade X exercise?

Were you aware that "Covid 19" is patented?

This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 11:03 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:02 am to
Has anyone suggested this is a psyop, yet? Seems pretty obvious if you're not a sheep.
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