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re: Trump is screwing the pooch on this BBB.

Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:44 am to
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:44 am to
Because they would need 60 votes to pass and only have 53. Means ALL of the no spine republicans would have to vote for anything AND 7 democrats. That would give schumer power over anything that the Republicans tried to pass...
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:48 am to
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Simplemaaan


you are living up to your screen name
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9610 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:32 am to
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How about these do nothing Rs just pass this fricking bill bwfore we get a massive tax hike


Because anyone with a brain knows there will be no tax hike. There will only be a larger and larger deficit each year, there will be money printing to cover it, and there will be the resulting inflation because of it.

Alternative scenario: do what you promised, live by your word.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3512 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:41 am to
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You mean the manner in which I described?


You did not describe that at all. So not only did you present a ridiculous proposition, you still were too simple to see you were wrong when someone dumbed it down for you. Even more bizarrely, you thought you were correct after the explanation
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 5:42 am
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5937 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:58 am to
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FIFY. This is why they do these massive bills. If you oppose anything in it, you are for tax hikes, and you get primaried.


This is a bingo. Trump is using the tax cuts as leverage in order to get a lot of other things he wants passed.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:25 am to
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How about these do nothing Rs just pass this fricking bill bwfore we get a massive tax hike




Instead of tax hikes your immigrant loving arse should be worried about losing your medicaid.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41258 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:51 am to
There are no small bills. That is the problem. I would love for a law that forced congress to pass single issue bills but it will never happen and it just gets worse and worse. 1000 things get tacked onto every bill now. It sucks but it is the only way to get things passed without a huge majority.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:30 am to
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Because that was a campaign promise and politicians are obligated to break those


No you dumb frick. It’s simple parliamentarian rules. If you understood them you would know the answer.

You don’t. And you mock from a place of complete ignorance. As per usual.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
27042 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:19 am to
Because he can’t. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

If he ran each individual bill, it would take years to go through plus he would need 60 votes per bill.

Every administration gets two reconciliation bills that only requires 51 votes so they cram the mandates through this big bill

I really wish that people would learn about shite before talking about shite because some of you people are fricking clueless when it comes to politics.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14451 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:29 am to
Trumps record would indicate that he doesn't need suggestions from amateurs.
The crooked dim o craps have been exposed, They can rig elections and make up fake stories but the train keeps chugging along.
Posted by Pecos Pedro
Member since Nov 2024
745 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:32 am to
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Remember how popular the "12 bills" were after Gaetz demanded it last year?


I believe that was for the 12 appropriation bills rather than the omnibus bill which they are required to do every year by 9/30 to fund the next fiscal year.

What is happening right now has nothing to do with that.

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Where are the people who supported that plan now?


I suspect many of them recognize the difference between appropriation and budget reconciliation.

If you want tax cuts made permanent and the border secured and millions deported this is the only way to get there given the makeup of the Senate.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25586 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:34 am to
You have been bleeding a lot lately. Everything ok at home?
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
26047 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:41 am to
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Why doesn’t he just run the items in the Bill in smaller groups than one big Bill.

You need 60 votes to pass a single bill. The BBB can be classified as a Privlaged Bill and only needs 50 votes to pass.

For example, if the Senate just voted to make the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act permanent, the Democrats would kill it and taxes would go up for everyone.

Border security bill? Dems would kill it.
No tax on tips? Dems would kill it.
Eliminate fraud in Medicare? Dems would kill it.
No tax on overtime? Dems would kill it.
No tax on SS? Dems would kill it.
Protection for farmers? Dems would kill it.
Eliminate waste and fraud from bloated federal programs? Dems would kill it.
Deport illegal aliens? Dems would kill it.
Watch Massie run around with his hair on fire? Dems would kill it.
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:45 am to
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It’s simple parliamentarian rules


Parliamentarian ruels require them to do an omnibus bill? if you have no idea how congress works why open your mouth and show everyone how fricking stupid you are no you retard parliamentarian rules don't require omnibus bills, they're doing an omnibus bill because they know this garbage doesn't have the votes to pass if they voted on each piece independently and not as an omnibus bill thats how they got murkowski's vote in the senate, no one in 49 states would say yes to pork for alaska so she pushed to get it in an omnibus bill and that's why our deficit is going up 5 trillion because of this garbage
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