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re: Trump orders release of Epstein documents

Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37230 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:18 pm to
Grand jury testimony is the bare minimum required to indict (not convict) Epstein and / or Maxwell.

I want:
1. Acosta to tell us who told him that Epstein was "intelligence".
2. Any FBI / CIA files on Epstein. Like they had on MLK.

Just to start...
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2573 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:18 pm to
I’m glad enough people got mad at this that Trump had to stop being a complete idiot and forced his hand
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:18 pm to
It’s going to be literally nothing. People spiking the football over this tells you how absolutely desperate they are for a perceptual W
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1588 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:20 pm to
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Question... why subject to court approval?


Because that’s the law, dumbass.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35648 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:21 pm to
The legitimate reason for their being under seal is that the law requires that they be under seal. The entire proceeding is “under seal.” And it’s not that way only at the federal level, but every state has more or less the same law concerning grand jury proceedings.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
17945 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:23 pm to
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Because that’s the law, dumbass.


EABOD... I don't know everything about everything.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40659 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:23 pm to
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I’m glad enough people got mad at this that Trump had to stop being a complete idiot and forced his hand


We did it boys
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50639 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:35 pm to
Is it only the grand jury testimonies?

Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1588 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:40 pm to
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EABOD... I don't know everything about everything.


Not even ninth grade civics? SMH
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
17945 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:44 pm to
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Not even ninth grade civics? SMH


Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2573 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:46 pm to
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We did it boys


Now if we can apply the same pressure to defund Ukraine and stop assisting Israel
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7316 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:46 pm to
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The simpletons who are so invested in this will never be satisfied.


Someone has to donate to “The Influencers” to keep them “relevant”.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:05 am to
Sure nothing will be tampered with

Love that raw video
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:07 am to
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It’s going to be literally nothing.


fricker led with it for years
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8715 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:17 am to
Release the Kraken!
Posted by abitaman6363
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
465 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:12 am to
“[…] all pertinent Grand Jury testimony […]”

In other words all testimony that does not make folks the administration doesn’t want to look bad look bad.

What a joke.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37918 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:29 am to
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Stupid frick, he got the Dems to demand their release.
I’m genuinely trying to follow the logic.

The theory being floated is that Trump played some high-level long game by getting Democrats to demand the Epstein files, like this was all part of some 4D chess setup. But that raises the obvious question: why?

He didn’t need Democrats to ask. He could’ve just released the files. If there’s material that helps him or hurts his enemies, he had every incentive, and the platform, to go public. No need to bait anyone. Why needlessly delay the exposure and potential investigations and prosecutions of heinous criminals to instead rely on a Wile-E-Coyote plan to achieve the same result he could have achieved months ago just as easily, and in the same manner he did today... on social media. Nothing was ever stopping him from doing that.

What we actually got was endless crossed wires and internal fire. Pam Bondi says she has the files. The base gets hyped. Then the DOJ comes out saying there’s no list. Then Trump calls it a hoax. Then comes a half-step: a promise to maybe release grand jury material, if the court allows. That’s not a plan unfolding. That’s improvisation under pressure.

If the goal was to “trap” the Democrats into pushing him to do something he really wanted to do anyways, it sure involved a lot of collateral damage.

I’m not maga and never claimed to be. But I'm not on here spamming the board with OMB posts either. Does the argument being made actually hold water? In this case, it doesn’t.

The simplest explanation is usually the right one: he miscalculated, the backlash hit harder than expected, and now it’s being reframed as intentional.

if the play is always to release the files then just release the files without placing a series of needless steps and events that have to play out correctly between yourself and your goal. You wouldn't approach any serious matter in your life with a plan full of needless extra steps.
Posted by BeesWax
Member since Mar 2025
695 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:32 am to
This won’t be enough.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 5:22 am to
quote:

The theory being floated is that Trump played some high-level long game by getting Democrats to demand the Epstein files, like this was all part of some 4D chess setup. But that raises the obvious question: why? He didn’t need Democrats to ask. He could’ve just released the files. If there’s material that helps him or hurts his enemies, he had every incentive, and the platform, to go public. No need to bait anyone. Why needlessly delay the exposure and potential investigations and prosecutions of heinous criminals to instead rely on a Wile-E-Coyote plan to achieve the same result he could have achieved months ago just as easily, and in the same manner he did today... on social media. Nothing was ever stopping him from doing that.


You won’t get a logical answer to this. You’ll just get an insult, called a panican, and told to shut up. Which makes sense: because Trump said anyone asking about this is a loser and a naive idiot and he doesn’t want their support. He also said that he alone dictates the MAGA movement and no one is allowed to question it.

So by his own design all he has left are rabid true believers who will defend him no matter what.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
3233 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 5:25 am to
Why limit it to grand jury testimony?? Why not release every single document?? What is there to hide.

And where is the missing footage? Can we get an investigation into that??
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 5:26 am
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