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re: Trump "This means WAR"
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:35 am to John T Ford
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:35 am to John T Ford
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Watch your tongue baw...
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That turns everything west of the Mississippi blue overnight.
Watch your tongue baw...
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:37 am to Jjdoc
The question is can you really get rid of the cartels without keeping US forces there indefinitely?
You might wipe out their operations but you’ll never stop people from building it back. A multi billion dollar industry with high demand isn’t going to be idle for long
You might wipe out their operations but you’ll never stop people from building it back. A multi billion dollar industry with high demand isn’t going to be idle for long
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:37 am to saints5021
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If given the greenlight, it would take our special forces a few months to totally wipe them out.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:40 am to Parmen
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YES! MONROE DOCTRINE HERE WE COME!
So dumb.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:44 am to Jcorye1
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I, for one, am shocked that gangs are still in open Warfare with each other over liquor being smuggled in.
Oh yes, and tell us more about how alcohol has cured societies ills. Now imagine how many more will be saved by fully legalized cocaine, opiates and methamphetamines!
Mexico is a narcostate, let’s turn the US into one as well.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:47 am to SSpaniel
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They should send in some CIA guys, kidnap a cartel leaders daughter, frame another cartel for it and let them go to war with each other.
Cartels fighting each other is what got Americans in the cross hairs. There is no ROEs amongst their ground troops.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:51 am to DeltaDoc
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I hope not. We start war in Mexico and instantly mass produce legitimate refugees. That turns Texas blue forever in a couple of years.
Damn good, albeit frightening, point...
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:52 am to makinskrilla
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Mexico is a narcostate, let’s turn the US into one as w
Get your head out of your arse. The US is, and has been, a narco state for decades. Drug use is ubiquitous across all age groups, geography, and demographics. The drug market is larger than the entertainment industry and the fast food industry. It being illegal only serves to enrich organized crime, endanger consumers with tainted, unregulated products with no tort remedies, and ensure the market place is governed by violence rather than economics and consumer choice.
Those who will do drugs are doing them now. There is no difficulty to obtain them. They’re everywhere. Making them legal won’t make me, or anyone else, suddenly want to do meth.
But it will allow users to know what they’re buying, sue in tort when they purchase unsafe products, and for domestic corporate growers to easily out-produce, distribute, and market drugs to the populace, which will destroy the cartels.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:53 am to makinskrilla
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I think you may be underestimating the size and capabilities of the cartel. Follow Ed’s manifesto on instagram. It took us years to defeat isis. The cartels are no joke probably 100x the size of isis.
We broke the Colombian cartels and can break the Mexican cartels
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:54 am to 187undercover
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eliminate cartels
Remember I said this.
I am neither for or against legalizing drugs. So if that was your initial thought it's wrong.
It will not eliminate Cartels however. You would be naive to think otherwise. It's funny you think they only trade in drugs.
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There is always that guy. You are that guy.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:54 am to hogminer
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So dumb.
Why? I would think that staying out of wars that are not even in the same hemisphere while worrying about things that are is a good thing. Poppies in Afghanistan should be a whole lot less important than cartels murdering US citizens in border towns. Unrest in Venezuela is much more important than unrest in the Balkans.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:54 am to 187undercover
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Absolute bull shite.
He's right. The cartels still work in nations that have legalized drugs.
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They will have zero market here in America.
They WILL have a larger market. It's absurd to think that they won't grow it cheaper, make it cheaper and still sell it here.
You have ZERO proof of that... while I have proof of what I am saying from other nations.
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When you can access a bud light at your convenience store on any block in town why the frick would you buy some unregulated "cut" dirty shite from out of town?
When you can't purchase the jacked up prices, but have to have your fix.... you buy on the streets.
This is like you saying that if somebody took your job, you would not continue to work.
Drug cartels will adapt. They are not going to all of the sudden change professions and become saints
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:59 am to 14&Counting
We broke the Colombian cartels and they moved to Mexico. To take on the cartels in Mexico would be another Iraq/Afghanistan. I hope this is trump just calling the new president out. The new president in Mexico has already surrendered to the cartels.
The real answer to solve the US drug problem is to address the Demand as well as the supply. But our efforts to address demand do not appear to be succeeding.
Unfortunately it seems the problem is getting worse.
The real answer to solve the US drug problem is to address the Demand as well as the supply. But our efforts to address demand do not appear to be succeeding.
Unfortunately it seems the problem is getting worse.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:59 am to Jjdoc
They only operate because most of those nations only decriminalized drugs but don’t actually make it legal to grow and sell, only use. That emboldens cartels.
Go to Colorado or California. No one buys drugs from shady dealers anymore. They go to pot stores, they know exactly what farm their product comes from. The farm grows it domestically with quality control that comes from high level corporate mechanized production. No one buys shite Mexican weed out there anymore. Weed was half the cartel’s revenue. That’s why they’re so violent right now. They’re killing each other fighting over their rapidly shrinking market-share of the black market as more and more of their market goes into the light.
Go to Colorado or California. No one buys drugs from shady dealers anymore. They go to pot stores, they know exactly what farm their product comes from. The farm grows it domestically with quality control that comes from high level corporate mechanized production. No one buys shite Mexican weed out there anymore. Weed was half the cartel’s revenue. That’s why they’re so violent right now. They’re killing each other fighting over their rapidly shrinking market-share of the black market as more and more of their market goes into the light.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:07 am to kingbob
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Get your head out of your arse. The US is, and has been, a narco state for decades. Drug use is ubiquitous across all age groups, geography, and demographics. The drug market is larger than the entertainment industry and the fast food industry. It being illegal only serves to enrich organized crime, endanger consumers with tainted, unregulated products with no tort remedies, and ensure the market place is governed by violence rather than economics and consumer choice.
Those who will do drugs are doing them now. There is no difficulty to obtain them. They’re everywhere. Making them legal won’t make me, or anyone else, suddenly want to do meth.
But it will allow users to know what they’re buying, sue in tort when they purchase unsafe products, and for domestic corporate growers to easily out-produce, distribute, and market drugs to the populace, which will destroy the cartels.
Why did I have top wait until the third page to FINALLY hear the voice of reason? Legalization would cripple the cartels and cut illegal immigration in half. It doesn't cost the tax payer a dime and increases our freedom.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:07 am to kingbob
And what about the health of the users king bob? Look at the problems alcohol causes. These will grow exponentially with “legitimate” industry producing cocaine, etc. and I bet you are against big pharma, and if you legalize all drugs it will be big pharma from hell.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:11 am to Jjdoc
As a man who just benged watched 3 seasons of Narcos, I think this is a bad idea. They are just trying to make some money. When you go to war everyone suffers.
Leave them alone. You cant stop drugs.
Leave them alone. You cant stop drugs.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:11 am to Jjdoc
can't stop a war that our govt has played a part in supporting for the last 30yrs.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:12 am to Jjdoc
trumps idea of war isnt tanks and troops marching in, its going to be surgical strikes from special ops going straight in to cut the heads off of the cartels in charge and destroy all means they have of making money and seizing bank accounts.
but they wont let us help, they are run completely by the cartels in their own version of deep state who run the country
but they wont let us help, they are run completely by the cartels in their own version of deep state who run the country
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:20 am to SSpaniel
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They should send in some CIA guys, kidnap a cartel leaders daughter, frame another cartel for it and let them go to war with each other.
Send Josh Brolin and Benicio Del Toro.
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