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re: Trump verdict coming at 3pm Eastern, in the rape civil trial.

Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Quick verdict usually bad for defendant.



In civil suits?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18420 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:58 pm to
Orange man bad is the only thing that matters to a ny jury.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:58 pm to
The Chappelle Show’s bit on the R Kelly tape seems appropriate here.

“I won’t believe that tape without each of the girls holding up two forms of ID and Kelly’s grandmother present to identify him.”
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129081 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:58 pm to
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But unlike you I have a good bit of jury experience.


I have a decent amount. It would be pretty unusual for a civil jury to come back with a really large monetary verdict that quickly.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70266 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Rape and taking a pee pee on a hookers buttocks.

Both of which will ultimately be revealed were actually Hunter Biden.




To be fair, the rape part is his daddy Joe with his sister
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21368 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:59 pm to
Someone give me the quick rundown of this case. Did this broad claim Trump raped her 30 years ago?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110362 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:00 pm to
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I have a decent amount. It would be pretty unusual for a civil jury to come back with a really large monetary verdict that quickly.



You are correct. Lakeboy has no idea what he's talking about.

ETA, to be clear, I'm not trying to suggest what THIS jury may be doing here.

Just speaking on experience and knowledge.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:00 pm to
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Not usually in a civil case when awarding large damages.



Its in a jurisdiction where you have to plead a dollar amount right?
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29662 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:01 pm to
If all it takes is a women telling a story about something that allegedly happened 20+ years ago with no other evidence such as a witness, video tape, police report soon after it occurred, etc… to render a man liable to pay monetary damages, then no man is safe in NY and all men should leave the state.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18420 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:02 pm to
Lol. Wouldn't surprise me if the only question the jury asked was "what's trump worth?" and then just all agreed to use that number as the judgement.


Sadly, I'm only like 40% joking. I've genuinely no faith in juries from big blue areas.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:04 pm to
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It would be pretty unusual for a civil jury to come back with a really large monetary verdict that quickly.



I've seen it, but only when the jury was pissed off.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25588 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm to
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no one can prove that Trump didn’t commit this crime.



Do they have to?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm to
No other reason to be in the state anyway.

Blind David Paterson changed the NY state tax laws years ago to where you count as a resident for tax purposes if you spend more than X days in the state within a calendar year.

Unless you have a definite need to be physically present in the state, I would avoid it like the fricking plague if I didn’t want to be considered a “resident” of multiple states simultaneously.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129081 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm to
You can plead whatever dollar amount you want but my understanding is the jury can still decide on any amount they want to give.

They have to decide first on liability aka is this person civilly liable which would generally take time.

Then they would decide on damages, aka amounts, and there is usual several elements of damages to award.

That USUALLY takes time.

However, all juries are different. They could have walked in and said "Guilty", give her whatever she wants.

That isn't the norm though
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm to
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Not really. But unlike you I have a good bit of jury experience.



Of course you are, every single possible anti-Trump tidbit causes your knee to jerk into convulsions.

Civil suits don't "prove" jack shite but I am sure you and others will jump at the opportunity to call Trump a "rapist".
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19660 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm to
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The Chappelle Show’s bit on the R Kelly tape seems appropriate here.

Did Trump plead the Fif?
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
108556 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:06 pm to
So their plan is to make Trump come to court enough in NY so they can get his tax money.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:06 pm to
In a criminal court, there should be no way to convict based solely on a lack of evidence. The bedrock of our court system is “innocent until proven guilty” and not vice versa.

In a civil court? More leeway but a total lack of evidence toward that verdict means an extremely high chance of being tossed on appeal.
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